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#c13 Up For Auction With The Oddest Perfs I Ever Seen?

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Posted 10/24/2012   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was just browsing ebay and run across a C13 for sale now @ $50.00 and it's described as legitimate but I have my doubts. All the photos of it are done with a fish-eye lens or one similar that distorts the image too much to be of much help and the perforations look like someone deliberately made them and don't look at all natural. It's also adhered to a small scrap of paper so you can't see the back. I think it's a facsimile and someone tried to make it look more like a real one. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Have a look.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graf-Zeppel...em2576abef8a
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Posted 10/24/2012   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrEos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah... those perfs look like they were made with hand-held scissors. Not even lined up for depth or any other measure of consistency.

This kind of stuff (also mentioned in several other 'fraud alert' threads lately) just makes me sad.
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Posted 10/24/2012   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Big Texx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The same seller has the other two Zepp's up for auction with the same type of paper envelope and the same suspicious perf's. All three state they are used yet I do not see any cancel on any of the three. The stamp itself doesn't look like it's printed on the right paper IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graf-Zeppel...em2c6917d30f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Graf-Zeppel...em25769c4f18
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Posted 10/24/2012   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the 'fish eye' images were taken through a microscope.
But the perfs do look uneven don't they.
It's on piece, but too bad there's no cancel.
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Posted 10/24/2012   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is on piece, the question is piece of what ? Looks shady to me, almost to the point where I start thinking of someone at a photo copier and pinking shears.
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Posted 10/24/2012   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks "fishy" and not because it is flying over the ocean.
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Posted 10/24/2012   5:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What gets me is he lists it as genuine but how would he/she/they know? Looks like they sell and buy mostly snap-on tools and junk. I been finding a lot of this stuff on ebay lately..Buyer beware!
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Posted 10/24/2012   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They certainly look like fakes to me.
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Posted 10/24/2012   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Russ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A man, a dream and an inkjet printer.
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Posted 10/24/2012   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
A man, a dream and an inkjet printer.


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Posted 10/24/2012   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Huh! I just looked at his other two listings. Quite a coincidence that he should have all three of these on pieces of tattered brown wrapping paper (I assume it is) and none of them canceled. What are the odds?
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Posted 10/24/2012   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
very very slim are the odds James.
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Posted 10/24/2012   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Souvenir Card #SC-28 had an engraved replica of the 65c Zeppelin as part of its design. See U.S. Scott Specialized Catalog. This is a plausible source for this "stamp," -- first crudely perforated, then stuck on "piece" to conceal the fact that it's on thicker paper (i.e., card stock) than stamp paper.

The other two Zeppelins also appeared on Souvenir Cards, I believe; same theory.

I am not accusing anyone of anything, I am proposing a possible explanation.
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Posted 10/24/2012   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Take a look at the bottom of the white circle surrounding the right side"65c". It has a green horizontal line. My 2 cents worth says it is a forgery.
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Posted 10/24/2012   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom right corner of the c-15 $2.60 is laughable.
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Posted 10/24/2012   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the seller bought them thinking they were real.
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