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114 With Nagasaki, Japan "Chop" Cancellation?

 
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Posted 05/31/2014   1:37 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Rileysan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I picked this one up on ebay today. There appears to be several varieties of the "chop" cancellation, but I don't know if this is one. Can anyone confirm? Gmsaduskey, do you know?

Can someone recommend a book on these cancellations?

Thanks!

Brian


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Posted 05/31/2014   2:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brian, In the gmsaduskey collection thread you brought up, you may have noticed that in his reply to my post back then he mentioned that all the items after the series of 30c stamps bear Japanese cancels. So it would appear that he shows a 6c, about 3-4 10c and a 30c with the Nagasaki cancel you are wanting to compare. I only mention it in case you did not see that.
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Posted 05/31/2014   3:24 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I browsed through his pictures, but have noticed there are some variations of the "chop" theme, thus I want to defer to someone with more knowledge on these.

My hope is that it's authentic - especially considering it was listed as "Ex Hubert Skinner". The seller has a number of items listed as such ...

Brian
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Brian, Post this to Richard Frajola's chat board. He has a pretty good knowledge on the Japanese chops and there could be others who post there--some very knowledgeable guys on that site, who can give you some info. He sent me an e-mail with some samples of Japanese chop cancels. I don't still have the-email or I'd send it to you. Mention it in an e-mail to him, and perhaps he'll send it to you. It's not a great source, but its helpful. I've, I think, two 3-cent and two ten-cents 1869's with what may be Yokohama "cross" chop cancels. I believe he told me he was not aware of any published reference on Japanese chop cancels, but that seems unlikely? I'd appreciate any link to other reference sources you may have on this. Occasionally I see what could be chops showing up on E-Bay, mostly on the tens, some stated as such and some not. Pretty high asking prices on those stated as chop cancels. I keep looking for a six-cent with a chop. The one you've posted looks good to me, but its not exactly a match on what's on the stuff Richard sent me.
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Posted 06/01/2014   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmsadusky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HI BRIAN
Hard to say if your 3cent is a chop cancel there too many variations
if you look at my coll.after the 30 cent stamps are all Japanese cancels mostly with PF OR PSE Certs,the 6 cent is a PSE cert early STAGE CHOP
the first ten cent which is close to your 3 has a PF CERT.go Siegel power search scott #114,113 116,key word japan it will show all the chops. the best book is the UNITED STATES POST OFFICES IN CHINA AND JAPAN 1867 TO 1874 BY Frajola Perlman Sscamp.

Jerry
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Posted 06/01/2014   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Few people know this, but the Nagasaki cancel was just an "X" cancellation. The "chop" ones are all mutations from when the bomb was dropped. Very very few people know this.




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Posted 06/02/2014   07:43 am  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
*groan*

Sorry to ruin your joke - I got the city wrong! It was yokohama. Perhaps there's a tire joke to be had?
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Posted 06/03/2014   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmsadusky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brian,

GO ON THE PF SEARCH THE DATA BASE AND YOU WILL SEE THE SAME CANCEL
LISTED THERE.
Jerry
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