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Need Help Identifying ~ Two-Sided Tax Stamps? (Front & Back)

 
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Posted 06/22/2014   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add disi123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




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Posted 06/22/2014   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The blue side is the revenue stamp. The black side is called a cypher, it has the insignia of the king or queen who was reigning at the time. There is a lead staple holding them together that you can see from the front.
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Posted 06/22/2014   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector... thank you kindly... any idea of country and time period?
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Posted 06/22/2014   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it's from the United Kingdom aka Great Britain and under the reign of King George.
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Posted 06/22/2014   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, jogil... I have an old Scott 3-book A-Z set (1983)... it doesn't appear to have either United Kingdom, or England or Great Britain for some reason... unless there's some other way to look it up... ?
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Posted 06/22/2014   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe thats' called an escutcheon, or at least the method of attaching the stamp to the document is.
Here's a partial response to this question from an other forum

'Escutcheoning" was a method to ensure that revenue
stamps did not detach from vellum / parchment documents.

The embossed revenue stamps were on a seperate
piece of paper from the document. They were slit
twice with an escutcheoning knife and a (metal) band
passed through the two slits in the stamp (and the
parchment of course).

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On the reverse side the ends of the band were folded
to secure it and they were then tied to the back of the
document with a paper seal bearing the monarch's insignia.

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I believe the band was also known as an escutcheon.
The document front would look like this.'

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Posted 06/22/2014   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, James... those links aren't coming up right now, I'll try later...
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Posted 06/22/2014   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't worry about the links Disi.
The original posts noted that they may no longer be available, so I wouldn't bother. I guess I should have deleted those parts.
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Posted 06/23/2014   07:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some idiot snipped me on this! you bet I'm mad.
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Posted 06/23/2014   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dang...
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