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Unknown 1870-71 2c Jackson Orange With Laid Paper

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Posted 06/27/2014   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add CoinWatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just wanted to share this with everyone. Do not see any listing for a 2c Jackson,orange color with laid paper. Anyone heard of this before?







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Posted 06/27/2014   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt that is laid or ribbed paper. Rather the soft paper of this issue gives a very mottled appearance when held to light which I think you are mistaking for laid. To be true laid paper, the lines in the paper must be clear when the stamp is immersed in watermark fluid.
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Posted 06/27/2014   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The sun did come out and I took some more pics. This is with direct sunlight from behind.







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Posted 06/27/2014   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's absolutely soft paper.
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Posted 06/27/2014   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent picture! But it's still just soft paper, not laid.
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Posted 06/28/2014   05:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but I'm not sure why you guys feed this troll. You told him it was soft paper but he is not one to listen. So what did he do ? he listed it on ebay as laid paper with an asking price of $1,5000,000.00, yes, 1.5 million. Coin watcher, I hope someone bans you from this site.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-71-UNK...em3f38b35dee

I doubt it's worth $1 in that condition, but 1.5 million ? Give me a break.
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Edited by stallzer - 06/28/2014 05:42 am
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Posted 06/28/2014   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like what can be called horizontal wove paper. Laid paper would have somewhat more pronounced lines and less of them. Also, the lines would be straight connected across and not slightly broken off from each other. Someone should post a copy of the same stamp that shows the same kind of paper here.
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Edited by jogil - 06/28/2014 07:14 am
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Posted 06/28/2014   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampCat7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
coinwatcher - You should delete this stamp from ebay immediately. You give stamp dealers a bad name by listing a piece of crap stamp not worth 2 cents for an absurd amount.
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Posted 06/28/2014   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are listings currently free on ebay since listing something for so much would cost a bit?
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Posted 06/28/2014   07:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The worst part is he has no clue who answered his question above. Yet he adamantly denies any false listings or deceptive practices as can be seen here.

https://goscf.com/t/37873

He has no ethics whatsoever and threatens our future resources here by doing things like this. We are very fortunate to have people like Bill Weiss, Sinclair, Tipzi, The revenue collectors and many others that take time out of their lives to share their knowledge which they have accumulated from years of study and research.

If they see that this knowledge they share is used for things like this you have to ask yourself if you would keep feeding the very things you stand against ?
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Posted 06/28/2014   07:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stallzer....you are 100% correct about CoinWatcher.
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Posted 06/28/2014   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it does have free shipping
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Posted 06/28/2014   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coinwatcher,
It seems to me that you are just intentionally messing with kevin504 and stallzer but independent from your 'fun' I have to say that this listing is lame. What you are doing is not good for the hobby, this forum, and ultimately your reputation.

Of course you can ask any price you want for anything; but describing this item as laid paper is not only misleading but deceptive. Please at least consider revising your ad to address this part of your description.

I'll make this offer for you. Send this stamp to Bill Weiss for a certification. If it is indeed a laid paper I will cover the entire cost of the cert, you will pay nothing for the cert and end up with something that you can sell with a clear conscious. Of course if it turns out to not be laid paper you will have to put your money where your mouth is, but surely since you are confidence enough to list it as laid paper this should not be any concern for you.
Sound fair?
Don
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Posted 06/28/2014   10:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
THANK YOU STALLZER!! I seldom "yell" (caps) on any forum but you echo my own thoughts, so either you are losing it or I was thinking correct from the get go! Coinwatcher should be ashamed of himself. I apologize for this obtuse post. -Jeffrey
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Posted 06/28/2014   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

coinwatcher:

Quote:
I do appreciate your opinions,but I have learned from previous posts that at times people are absolutely sure that they are correct on their point of view sometimes to be proven wrong. Thank-you all for your time and opinions.


Perhaps you should take your own advice?
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Posted 06/28/2014   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But is this the attention to bring yourself? I apologize to all for my rant above but I can't edit it, the time limit expired. I come here to read and learn from a lot of the members here and it's things like this that chase these members away. I don't think the seller is a burr under my saddle intentionally since many of his silly listings began before I ever pointed them out,
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