Washington Banknotes And Bureaus

I have gone back over what I have listed in the collection, for the two cent Washington's. I don't trust I have them correct.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could let me know if I've got these six correct. I've a mounting horror, I might have to go through the entire collection, again, stock and all. I'd like to know now, and 'get it over with' so it's not hanging over my head, and giving me nightmares.

Again, I've not gotten to the 'watermark' part of the process, so the Bureaus' may be 1895s and not 1894s, I understand. Also, some of the stamps are still on paper, I'm learning postmarks, and don't want to lift a letter, or something that would help in my ID'ing. When I do have it, I'll work towards getting them properly removed. (Still very new at this.)

Thank you, in advance, for your time and assistance.


Banknotes

Washington, Lake, 219D



Washington, Carmine, 220



Washington, Carmine, 220a (cap on left 2)







Bureaus

Washington, Pink, 248




Washington, Carmine Lake, 249




Washington, Carmine, 252

Your 248 isn't a 248 (not type I) but it looks like it's probably pink. Real Scott number will depend on type (couldn't tell from your scan) and paper (DLW vs. UW.) My guess is Scott 267a.

Forgot to mention that the 1890-93 issues (219D/220/220a) are all correct. Can't tell on the others without knowing the watermark (but the 249 is "probably" correct.)

srailkb, thank you for your time and input.

The 248 does look pink, compared to the other two. I took a closer look under the microscope and I see that the white border around the triangles do not have horizontal lines through them. That would make it a 267a, correct? I will also check this one, and the others, from my first post yesterday, for watermarks, in the near future. Thank you.

Tried to get a better scan of the 248 that is a 267a.

Your "248" could either be a 267a (Ty IIIa) or a 279Bg
(Ty IV) given that you are not seeing any lines in the
white outermost part of the triangle... so your next
step is to determine IIIa or IVBg...

If you open your Scott to between where #247 and #248
are listed, (page 52 in 2013 Scott), you'll see all of
the triangles depicted, then, you will see the full
description and arrows with numbers directing you to
the many changes which were made in the Ty IV... such
changes which delineate Ty III and Ty IV from each
other and make it easier for you accurately ID the two...

disi123, thank you for pointing me to the right place, in the Scott Catalog. I am expecting to have one in my possession, within the next day, or so. I will look, then, to where you have said to.

I am new to philately. I have been using other online resources, up to this point. It became clear to me, early on, I was going to need one of my own, within reach, as opposed to going to the library.

cet... both the 267 and 279B have
the same watermark... 'Watermark 191'
which refers to double-line watermark...
double line being (basically) Times Roman
which you'll find on page 29A in the
INTRODUCTION section at the front of
your Scott...

There is also 'Watermark 190' which is
single line, which (basically) is Arial
or Sans Serif in style. When you begin
to watermark test, you'll will see the
difference clearly...

disi, thank you for that additional information about watermarks. I will look at the introduction, as well. I appreciate your time in giving me guidance to where to look, for the information I need.

You are quite welcomed...

Happy collecting !

The www.1847usa.com web site is much better than the Scott Catalog. It lists die differences that can be used to distinguish various types from each other.

Clark

disi123, thank you, and happy collecting to you, as well. It has been a great joy to go through this collection, to get it in order, and properly ID'd. It's not just for myself, but for my mother, who's family lives again, through the memories spurred by the stamps, themselves, that she shares with me, and for my children, who will hopefully, one of them, be the fifth generation, to keep this family, US, and postal history alive, through what the collection tells us. My contribution, to the collection, as fourth gen, would be to get it properly stored, and identified. Our appreciation of your assistance, and that of others, down to the very fibers of the stamps, cannot be overstated.

Clark, thank you for that link. I have been utilizing it to figure out what I might have, as well as swedish tiger, mystic stamp, the Rhode Island Historical Society's Postal History (thesaltysailor), and Hamilton Philatelic, for some of the postmarks. There are a few others, as well, many I got from 'lurking' on this community. My bookmarks are becoming almost as big as the collection, itself.