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Help Identify Scott 534 Type

 
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Posted 10/11/2014   3:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add glchen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I recently purchased the attached Scott 534 stamp, where the seller did not identify the type. I look at the descriptions for the different types, but could not figure it out myself as I am pretty much a newbie collector. If anyone can help, that would be great.

Here are the descriptions for Scott 534 that I found online (note that it should not be Type IV or V as that would mean the stamp was Scott 532 or 533 unless the seller identified the stamp incorrectly):

Type IV - "Top line of the toga rope is broken. The shading lines in the toga button are so arranged that the curving of the first and last form 'D (reversed) ID'. The line of color in the left '2' is very thin and usually broken." [offset]

Type V - "Top line of the toga is complete. There are five vertical shading lines in the toga button. The line of color in the left '2' is very thin and usually broken. The shading dots on the nose [have 6 or 7 dots in each of the bottom three rows]." [offset]

Type Va - "Characteristics are the same as type V except in the shading dots of the nose. The third row of dots from the bottom has four dots instead of six. The overall height is 1/2mm shorter than type V." [offset]

Type VI - "General characteristics the same as type V except that the line of color in the left '2' is very heavy." [offset]

Type VII - "The line of color in the left '2' is invariably continuous, clearly defined and heavier than in type V or Va but not as heavy as type VI. An additional vertical row of dots has been added to the upper lip. Numerous additional dots have been added to the hair on top of the head." [offset]

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Posted 10/11/2014   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi... it's positively a 534... you've covered most of the
important indentifying data from your info source...

The major factors to always quickly identify a 534 are short
and sweet, as follows...

1a. The 4th shading row from the top of the nose is incomplete, containing only 4 dots.
2a. The left numeral '2' with incomplete line at center.

Secondary Features

1b. Color always a bright carmine to red shade.
2b. Design slightly narrower and shorter than Ty V.

Once you've ascertained 1a, there really isn't any
point to go further in the ID... it is unique unto itself...
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Edited by disi123 - 10/11/2014 7:27 pm
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Posted 10/11/2014   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although a better scan would help, the stamp is clearly a type Va 534. The two missing dots in the nose can be seen clearly enough. The "line of color" in the left two is weak and looks broken. A type V11 would have a stronger line and a type VI would have a very heavy line. A type V would have complete nose dots and a type IV would show a "D (reversed) ID" pattern in the toga button. The overall height of a type Va is about 1/3 mm shorter than a type V. The statement in Scott about being shorter than all of the other types may be overreaching.

A 600 DPI or higher scan saved at medium to high quality would be helpful.

Clark
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Edited by cfrphoto - 10/11/2014 7:21 pm
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Posted 10/12/2014   01:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glchen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate the analysis given. Although it looks like the stamp is a Scott 534 Type Va, I'll try to get a higher resolution scan of the stamp some time next week. (I left it at work.) Thanks again, and really appreciate the help on this forum. :)
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Posted 10/13/2014   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glchen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a scan at 1200 dpi, my max scanning resolution. Hope that can helps.

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Edited by glchen - 10/13/2014 8:07 pm
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Posted 10/13/2014   10:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great scan... beautiful 534...
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Posted 10/13/2014   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, it's apparent to be a type Va. There are many criteria that distinguishes each type.

1847usa.com has some good information about distinguishing types. It seems that the responses here elaborate even more.

Regardless, here's the relevant pages on 1847usa.com:

http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa..._03main.html
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...pesMain.html
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...d32perf.html
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa.../d2perf.html
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Posted 10/14/2014   11:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glchen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! Appreciate the confirmation.
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