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Posted 10/21/2014   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I answered your question correctly.....

Quote:
To the smarty pants who said NONE were issued ...Perhaps you are WRONG

SORRY....I GUARANTEE I am correct.

There are 3 types of 4c Martha Washington Issued is SHEET format....
1...flat plate - perf 11
2...rotary - perf 10
3...rotary - perf 11 x 10.5
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Edited by kevin504 - 10/21/2014 1:53 pm
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Posted 10/21/2014   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin, you seem like someone willing to take a wager.

TERMS:
1. The winner will be declared by the suspect stamp's perforation. Standard perforations will make you the winner, i.e. 10x10, 11x10.5, or 11x11. Any other perforation such as 10.5 x 11 will make me the winner. Re-perforation does not exclude me from being the winner. Perforations will be rounded to the usually accepted numerical value. i.e. perf 10.94 will be considered as perf 11.

2. The loser will change their avatar picture for at least 30 consecutive days.

3. If you loose, you will adopt an avatar picture that is chosen by a post and/or poll in the general discussion forum: https://goscf.com/f/35

4. If I loose I will adopt whatever avatar picture you choose as long as it meets this forum's rules and guidelines.

What doth you say?
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Posted 10/21/2014   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That stamp shows every indication of being a perf 10 #585. Some of the images you posted are at an angle (and also small) which changes the viewpoint and can make perfs appear different from what they actually are. I suggest you spend some more time perf checking it, and any comparisons with other stamps be large and facing so that the stamps both appear flat, taken from DIRECTLY above.
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector, until we see at least a decent scan, none of us know exactly what perf it is.

I do recognize that the images I posted are not definitive. They are photos and the assumptions I made may be entirely incorrect because of non-linearity due to taking a photo at non-perpendicular angles.

Unfortunately, as Clark has mentioned, this thread has become convoluted. There have been many miscommunications. There have been many dismissive attitudes expressed despite none of us knowing with certainty.

You may very well be correct with you assesment of it's catalogue number.

Until we have a clear scan, none of us know for certain. Hence, my lighthearted challenge to Kevin.
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
disi123 ~~~> puts his money on Kevin...
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
me~~~~>has no clue until a scan is posted...
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Avatar challenge... NICE! lol
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see dozens if not hundreds of examples of this issue every month. I know how to count perforations on stamps of this specific size (even without a gauge). It's a perf 10 stamp.
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Posted 10/21/2014   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector, I believe that you may be correct. My challenge is intended to incite the members here to elaborate on their observations. Clark seems to indirectly call this as perf 11. You call this as perf 10.

Regardless of my observations, I found that her question wasn't answered in a manner that made it understandable to her or most of us. I continued to reply to this thread trying to get her to post a scan.

If she does post a good quality and large enough scan, then we will all be able to see what the actual perforations are and if they are legitimate or not.
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Edited by Historical DNA Collector - 10/21/2014 11:51 pm
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Posted 10/22/2014   04:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

Regardless of my observations, I found that her question wasn't answered in a manner that made it understandable to her or most of us

I did answer her question....
then was promptly called a "smarty pants"
because it was not what she wanted to hear.

IT DOES NOT EXIST.
There is NO perf 10.5 x 11

(edit for typo)

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Edited by kevin504 - 10/22/2014 04:11 am
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Posted 10/22/2014   04:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HDNAC.....

Quote:
. The loser will change their avatar picture for at least 30 consecutive days.


That is a unfair bet.
You have 0% chance of winning.
I suggest you reconsider.
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Posted 10/22/2014   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin,
I don't care if I have 0% chance of winning. My first attempt at defusing your and her scuffle was unsuccessful. I am trying to inject a little humor. I will gladly become the "dunce" and graciously bear the avatar of your choice for 30 days.

Personally I think that it is perf 11:



However, we don't know for certain until we can see a scan. There has been a lot of miscommunication and a lot of dismissiveness in this thread.

Regardless of us knowing for certain, none of our responses have satisfied the level of certainty that she needs. She's convinced it's a 10.5 x 11. We've come up with 10x10, 11x10.5, 11x11, and possibly re-perforated.

A good scan should settle the dispute.

So Kevin, do we have a wager?
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Posted 10/22/2014   1:41 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Counting the bottom perfs within the design frame (usually a good indicator), it appears to be perf 11 on bottom, not 10.5.
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Posted 10/22/2014   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to thank you all for taking interest in my stamp. I would also like to apologize to Kevin I didn't mean to offend you I thought your comment was quite funny and I was making light of it.

I am going to get the stamp scanned tody does anyone have any sugggestions as to where I should go or what type of a scammer I will need to use...the scan on my scanner was poor quality.

Thanks
Andrea
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Posted 10/22/2014   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Historical DNA Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oops, I completely read your tone wrong.

You can get it scanned at many places: Kinko's copy centers, some grocery stores. Just make sure that they handle it correctly.

Any scanner that can do 600 dpi will work. 1200 dpi would be much better.

In addition to posting it here, it would be helpful to be able to download the original sized scan. Here are a few options for a "free file hosting service":

http://www.filedropper.com/

I and many others would like to see your scan. It wouldn't hurt to scan one of the other stamps at the same time
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