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What Should I Do With This Scott #595

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Posted 10/22/2014   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Belfastgirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a scott #595 ..I think it is unused as there is no sign of a cancel.... and no glue on the back.

I'm not sure how I should go about selling it ...

Should I get it certified ?

Do I insure it before sending it ?

Where should I send it ?



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Posted 10/22/2014   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What makes you think it is a Scott 595 ? It's amazing how beginners see 2 entries for a stamp in a catalog, 1 that catalogs for thousands and 1 that catalogs for pennies and naturally assume theirs is the rare one, not the one printed by the billions.
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Posted 10/22/2014   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bill Weiss has an ID service for a small fee at http://www.stampexpertizing.com

He also issues certs for stamp but in this case save your money and just get it ID for a few dollars. (You can do this without sending him the stamp.)
Don
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Posted 10/22/2014   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Acryally I have spent a considerable amount of time with my nose in ther scott cat as well as other books about stamps

I tested the perfs 11 x 11

I measured the stamp 22 3/4 x 22 1/4

I compared the shade with other stamps known to be carmine


I also have a #491

I checked the PERFs..... 10 VERTICLE

I checked the type .....TYPE 11

one shading line above the left 2
one in the second curve of the right 2
heavy shading lines on the toga rope and button

AND two #461

Both perf 11
both watermarked with a single line S

both with one shading line over the left and right 2

and both with weak shading on the toga rope and button
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Posted 10/22/2014   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeezsh,

I think she did some research. Good going BelfastGirl.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 10/22/2014   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Belfastgirl.....do you know how to tell a rotary
from a flat plat issue???
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Posted 10/22/2014   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have a [S]cott #595 ..I think it is unused as there is no sign of a cancel....


Sorry to report that the stamp is a 554c booklet pane single. Measurement is no substitute for comparison with other stamps. If checked,you will find that this stamp is not as wide as a rotary coil press stamp like a 599. It is also slightly shorter and wider than a 554 sheet stamp because of shrinkage after printing. The paper mesh or grain of booklet pane stamps was horizontal instead of vertical. Shrinkage occurs at right angles to the direction of the paper grain. The dimensions given in the Scott US Specialized catalog are not precise enough to be useful as go/no go measurements.

In any case, the stamp is used with traces of a cancel in the right margin and must have been soaked off a cover or piece resulting in loss of the gum.

Clark
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you clark I thought that was a piece of the cancel in the corner

I don't want to ask too many questions but could you tell me when measuring a stamp do you line the starting mark on the ruler with the left side of the boarder on the stamps design?

I have a little circle at the beginning of my ruler. If I overlaid it onto the circle at the top right corner of the stamp would it be an accurate way to measure?
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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could you tell me when measuring a stamp do you line the starting mark on the ruler with the left side of the boarder on the stamps design?


I use another stamp. The border is part of the design. In order to measure accurately enough a 10x glass with a reticule would be needed. Unfortunately, a stamp is too wide to see the left and right edges clearly at that magnification. The size differences being discussed here may be less than the width of the line on a ruler intended for ordinary measurements.

Again, compare with another stamp making sure that the one edge is as closely lined up as possible. The stamp on the left is a 610 and the one on the right is a 612.

Clark



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Posted 10/22/2014   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I rechecked my measurements and you think I was mistaken on the measurement I posted I think a more accurate reading is 20 mm wide at least 22.5 high maybe even 23mm

554c is a flat plate printing wouldn't 20 x 23mm be to big to be a flat plate ptinting

thank you
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not see a stamp 610 or 612 perhaps your image did not go through
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Belfastgirl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is also a bit of an issue with the left side being cut off so close to the perfs
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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554c is a flat plate printing wouldn't 20 x 23mm be to big to be a flat plate printing


Again. Measurements taken with a ruler will not be accurate enough. Compare the width of the stamp with a 2 cent 599 coil, or any coil from the 1922 or Presidential issue. It does not matter that the stamp is slightly wider than a regular flat plate sheet stamp. It is not wide enough to be a rotary press coil waste stamp.

I don't know why collectors insist on trying to measure stamps. The process is slow and ineffective.

Clark
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Posted 10/22/2014   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can take what Clark says to the bank. Two issues here; measurements given in Scott are a bit misleading and unless your have a very, very good set of calipers your chances of getting an accurate measurement are not good. This is why he is telling you to use another stamp as a reference.
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Posted 10/22/2014   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
typical "treasure hunter"... we've seen
all too many...
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Posted 10/23/2014   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Randall....truly amazing. (but agree with you)
If I were to have made that comment....
probably whould have been called additional "names"
or even offered a "wager".

I asked the OP a question earlier in the thread....
it went unanswered.

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