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Posted 01/03/2015   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
An obscure postcard I found (and bought) from my hometown of Jersey Shore, Pa. -Black people in Jersey Shore, Pa. at the turn of the century quite literally being paraded around town! I know this may be a bit risque but it is a fact of history that should not be overlooked. We always had a small *(VERY SMALL) black population of a few families and everybody liked and well respected them so I know first hand that they were not looked down upon so I don't think racism is the intention of the card. I can make out the a few of the words on the buckboard/hay wagon to the effect of: "Cu_ _ _vansbarn _ _{st}? ing Band"

It's a used Post Card but I don't have it in-hand yet but I did snag the seller's picture and worked with it to inspect it a little closer. I have never seen another one like it EVER! It's a "MICK" so it's legitimate but what an odd subject? I can't wait to get it and see whats on the reverse of this postally used card. Postmark and address...The auction said it was postmarked 1908.


Here is the image on the card.



Here is the whole front. with inscription/notation "Do you recognize this fellow?"



Here is the auction link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/32162329152...RK:MEBIDX:IT



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Posted 01/03/2015   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know if it helps, but the marking on the front of the card reads "1907", presumably the date the photo was taken.
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Posted 01/03/2015   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me, it looks like the entire town is participating in a patriotic parade. Quite a few US flags on display.
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Posted 01/03/2015   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A little digging reveals that this was likely the "Fireman's parade" put on by the "Neptune Fire Company (established in 1860)" on the 4th of July, 1907.

From Wane Welshan's book Jersey Shore

Quote:
"The first fire company in Jersey Shore was the Neptune Fire Company, was organized in 1860 and the citizens approved a special fire tax that allowed borough council to buy a new engine, leather hose and hose carriage. Since someone burned down the old fire house in April 1858, a new one was built at the end of Smith street (which is now the current municipal building). Council met here for the first time on March 3rd, 1862."

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Posted 01/03/2015   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another image from that very day in 1907. It was put on by the NYC Rail Road Shops in S. Avis.

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Posted 01/03/2015   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is another card but I was sort of hesitant to post it. I know it isn't politically correct but it was then and sometimes, history isn't pretty.

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Posted 01/03/2015   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank Goodness that not *every* old postcard with black people was an exercise in wink-wink racism.

Perhaps the band was publicizing its availability to perform at public/private events?

Perhaps the band was affiliated with the local Negro League baseball team? (channeling my Inner Ken Burns)

It may have been the band parading thru town, not the town parading the band.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who, if he won the lotto, would consider buying racist ephemera for the specific purpose of ritual burning)
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Posted 01/03/2015   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a few more from that day (but these ones aren't mine...yet!)





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Posted 01/03/2015   2:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was an independence day parade put on by the NYC Railroad and "Shops" and most likely was a band of performers or something similar as you suggest. Now the "blackface" image is certainly an exercise in racism but wouldn't have been looked at twice back then. It's just interesting to see all the decorations and how the townsfolk was close back then and all assembled for this event which nowadays is all but overlooked.
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Posted 01/04/2015   09:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even the Black Face thing needs to be seen in context.

For example, there was a time (a long time) when female operatic roles would be played by male actors, as it would not do to have talented women on the stage and on the road. You have to be a bit of a scold to insist that every implementation of paternalism is also misogyny.

Yes, some of the Black Face stuff was awful racial comedy, but it was often outdone by the stuff that genuinely black actors were asked to do in the movies, later.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 01/05/2015   03:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the reply ikey. :)
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Posted 01/10/2015   05:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got a nice little surprise when I read the back of the card!

First the whole of the reverse- which is in deplorable condition but it can be overlooked because of the historical information this card contains I think? lol



The message:



The CDS and address on the card close-up:



Again this is the Obverse of the card. I think these fellows might actually be in blackface as well?


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Posted 01/10/2015   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think these are Caucasians in "black-face" or actual real life black people? I really can't tell from this image and this is asked for my own edification. Comments (as long as appropriate) are quite welcome. -Jeff
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Posted 01/10/2015   11:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, this is quoted in a Jersey Shore Historical Society reference on the community:


Quote:
To build up local interest for the railroaders, Robert Cullivan organized his own brass band (Cullivan's Dark Town Band headquartered at the Allegheny House)
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Posted 01/10/2015   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
... which is in deplorable condition but it can be overlooked ...


Wear'n'tear ('condition') so dominates our thinking; if only we could free ourselves a bit!

The image on this card is, for example, fairly well-composed. The quarter-view of the carriage & horses is correct. While we cannot see what might have lay outside the frame, I think that any cropping that would cost us the sidewalk, etc, would be counter-productive.

There are zillions of postcards with poorly-composed images in pristine condition ... who would trade this card for one hundred of those?

The context of the image was apparently known to the sender & addressee, so we're left with work to do.

Part of that work might be explaining the address; was this card in lieu of attending an ocean voyage departure party?

And that stamp box belongs in the National Stamp Box Hall of Fame!

Condition, shmondition.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 01/12/2015   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree 100% ikeypikey! Thank you.
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