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Posted 01/12/2015   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Was this common on cancellations in the 80's...Looks like a time stamp..?

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Posted 01/12/2015   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the cover shown, I don't think the received/time stamp was intended to be a postal marking at all but simply was used as a received stamp for mail directed to the Postmaster. The received/time stamp itself had no postal use, as the cover was already postmarked with a machine cancel.

A couple of other curious things about the cover:

The machine slogan cancel reads "ALWAYS USE ZIP CODE" and the cover was sent from a Flint, MI business to the Postmaster of the same city, but they "forgot" to include a ZIP Code in the address! By 1974, it should have been an accepted practice to add the ZIP Code, especially when it was the same ZIP Code already shown in the return address.

The address of the recipient "Postmaster" was also a bit unique using the line "250 East Bl. Dr.". Upon checking, it seems the main Flint, MI post office is located at "250 East Boulevard Drive", but the sender spelled out the word "East", but (incorrectly) abbreviated the word "Boulevard" as "Bl." instead of "Blvd." and also abbreviated the word "Drive" as "Dr.", which makes you wonder why they chose to spell out the word "East".
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Posted 01/13/2015   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add: I would suspect that this piece contained a payment for a Post Office Box Rental renewal, a permit renewal for mailing bulk, a firm caller service, or other annual service fee. The time stamp allows for the Office (Postmaster) to determine if the payment was received in a timely manner, (irrespective of the Postmark) especially if the Postmaster only opened mail addressed as such and was not in on the day of receipt.
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Posted 01/13/2015   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, just to add something to the excellent write-ups above. This time stamp is still used in some offices. Sometimes it is on the cover, but where I used to work the contents were time-stamped!

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Posted 01/13/2015   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Other time stamp uses: When Special Delivery was in vogue, a time stamp would be applied to the back of a mail piece (with date)to mark receipt at origin office and delivery office. The time stamp was also used at each receiving office for Registered mail (before barcode & readers). All part of early tracking &recording programs.
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Posted 01/13/2015   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys for all that information.
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Posted 01/14/2015   12:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cet_gg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1, I'm guessing they wrote out East, to ensure it didn't go West. I once lived on a street that crossed over another and both sides of the street had the same house numbers on the other side, and the same street name. If you did not spell out the direction, chances are you'd be getting mail meant for the other side of the street. The postal workers weren't always attentive to a letter 'N' or 'S', or even a last name. I had to tell people who sent me mail, spell it out, so it gets the delivery person's attention, when they're putting mail in the bins to take to the truck. (And that wasn't that long ago.)

As for the rest of the address, I am assuming they were in a hurry, since it might have been a bill, as speculated and they're probably paying all the bills at one time, having to write out the address on them all, so abbreviate where they can, saving time and hand cramps. They didn't abbreviate East, like the rest of the address, but if they were sure it would go to the East, I don't doubt they might have used just the letter E. Same possible reason for the Bl instead of Blvd. Bl.. in a hurry, postal workers know where there boss can be found.... I wrote out East and signed the check didn't I? attitude. Zoom, zoom, zoom... bill paid.

As for the zip, that was possibly oversight in the rush to get the bills out, or they didn't know it. Again, it's going to the postmaster. "Postal person picking this up knows what his boss's zip is, right?"

Back then, it was an accepted practice to use zip codes, but your mail wasn't returned with nasty notes, if you didn't put a zip code on it. That started really a bit later, and when the four digits were added, you could get away with not putting those on, for a short period of time, too. The post office filled it in for you. Now, I don't know you won't get it back, with some kind of red stamp saying 'Undeliverable' since you didn't give the last four, much less no zip code at all.
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