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Grade Centering, Entire Block Or Each Stamp

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Posted 01/17/2015   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampcrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This block has pretty decent margins all around. The individual stamps do not. Certainly the right two stamps are much worse if taken on their own.

I know the block is centered low. Just using this as an example.

Is the block graded for centering or each individual stamp graded?


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Posted 01/17/2015   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know of anyone doing block grading, only singles.
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Posted 01/17/2015   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For actual grading (as it stamp exertising and grading) it is general not done for blocks.

For general evaluation as to centering, I would call the block Fine centered. To my eyes it is enhanced by a nice MN box cancel, though some would mark it down in value for having a heavy/large cancel.
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Posted 01/17/2015   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree; you would grade each stamp individually. That being said, when it comes to buying and selling oddball items, if the item has eye appeal, it might bump up what someone was willing to pay.
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Posted 01/17/2015   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Grade, schmade... this is a *nice block* and worthy of mounting proudly...
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Posted 01/17/2015   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lower left stamp is why blocks like this get broken up.

Which is a shame. Nice block, LL stamp is a VF, others Ave-F
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Posted 01/17/2015   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The lower left stamp is why blocks like this get broken up.


Perhaps, more commonly with a mint block... albeit there are a number
of canceled blocks with considerable enough value on a breakup, such
as this Langs block of 477... (which he has priced quite reasonably, surprisingly)...




http://www.ebay.com/itm/19071926911...RK:MEBIDX:IT
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Posted 01/17/2015   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lower left stamp on the 2 cent is only an 85J, which is not enough of a grade to break it up, but breaking up multiples is one of the big reasons I hate grading.
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Posted 01/17/2015   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 50 cent would not get broken up either, at least not by a dealer. All four stamps are off on 2 sides.
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Posted 01/17/2015   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The 50 cent would not get broken up either, at least not by a dealer. All four stamps are off on 2 sides.


Dunno what a dealer might do... prices (do) vary widely for single cancels...
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Posted 01/17/2015   6:30 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Billw2 and revcollector - neither would be good candidates to break up - both are better to keep as blocks. The lower left 2c is at best 85j, but not worth breaking out - the block is more attractive intact. The 50c block, if sold, would get more $ intact since none of the singles merit individual extraction.
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Posted 01/17/2015   8:04 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Struggling with the grading of the Franklin block by the ebay vendor. Particularly hard to call something like the LL stamp, where the design's almost lost beneath the footprint-like postmark, as "very fine".
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Posted 01/17/2015   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks folks. I had never thought about whether a block was graded for centering rather than it's singles. So of course, I asked here.

I like the look of this block as is. It shows margins all around, and the skewed rectangle cancels add a neat look. I've labeled it a Scott 526. It's perf 11 and has the toga button of a type IV
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Posted 01/17/2015   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobplates to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Nice block, LL stamp is a VF, others Ave-F"

Don't the perfs have to be into the design for a stamp to be graded Average? I don't see that here.

Bob
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Posted 01/17/2015   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, I agree. I'd say the UL stamp is F-VF, and the LR stamp is F. The UR stamp might have one or two perfs very slightly into the border at the lower left, so I'd call that one Avg+/VG+.
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Posted 01/17/2015   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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breaking up multiples is one of the big reasons I hate grading


Yeah, this bugs me too. Every time I see a stamp offered for sale with a copy of the cert for the block from which it was broken, it saddens me.

I understand why it's done, and I can't really blame dealers for seeking to maximize the resale value of their inventory - any businessman who wants to succeed knows that he must draw a line between business and sentiment.

But it still bugs me. When a block or sheet is broken, it irrevocably destroys that item. To me, it feels a lot like killing an elephant to harvest its ivory. The person doing it gains in the short term, but in the long term, we're all worse off in the absence of the original animal.
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