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Posted 03/12/2009   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kirks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Last week I received a package with two $4.80 Mt. Rushmore stamps on it. Unfortunately, both had been killed with a ball-point pen scribble. I was disappointed to say the least. Two collectible stamps ruined because someone was too lazy to pick up a rubber stamp

On the other hand, one of my favorite stamps is my SC #233 with a pen cancel. I think it could be correctly called an X cancel.



Today I added another to my collection and if I say so myself, I think it's a very attractive example of SC #63



So finally, my question is this... How do you feel about pen cancels? Like them? Hate them?

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Posted 03/12/2009   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but I hate 'em. I'll wouldn't refuse either of the two examples you've posted, though, for the short term until I replaced them with regular cancels.

The way to get around the dreaded pen/marker/roller cancel is to ask a counter clerk to cancel the stamps in your presence when mailing with their circular date stamp, which leads me to a question: Why do American counter clerks consistently use burgundy-coloured ink instead of black?
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Posted 03/12/2009   6:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand your position WpgLwr. I think most people agree with you -- it's a given that pen cancels sell for less than properly canceled examples. And I HATE the look of ball point scribbles on stamp. But there's something about these older stamps and "real" ink that I find interesting. In fact, I have another #233 with a "proper" cancel but I have relegated it to a stock book.

By the way, here are the other Columbians that go with the 4c and I'll grant you -- the X stands out in the crowd.



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Posted 03/12/2009   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate pen cancels. I am just lucky that the stamps cancelled by the pen here are common ones
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Posted 03/12/2009   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply






I hate them also, but on the bright side, its whats inside that counts...Larry, thanks for the covers.
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Posted 03/12/2009   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got two packages in today hit by the marker monkeys.
Posted the other on the marker monkey topic. AARRGGHH!

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Posted 03/12/2009   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh Lord, that's awful!
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Posted 03/12/2009   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I differ from most people and find that pen cancels are part of history and do not distract from the stamp. However in the two above examples I would call them killer pens marks not much different than those killer stamps ink/stamp cancels.
BTW nice jobs on the C's.
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Posted 03/12/2009   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh man..I will be really mad if I got packages with those kind of cancels
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Posted 03/12/2009   10:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I received an envelope today,my stamp club newsletter, and it wasn't even canceled with a spray on cancel. Unmarked & unblemished, that is also laziness.
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Posted 03/12/2009   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well at least you can use the stamp again :)
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Posted 03/13/2009   01:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes the fault lies with the cancelling machine. Klussendorfs were notorious for shooting two or three letters through at once, and cancelling only the top one.

But, when you have a &%#&load of mail to sort, and the truck is just pulling up, sometimes you don't bother with making sure every stamp on every letter is cancelled (although you make sure to inflate the figure from the counter on the machine another hundred or so to get those ones that were missed and didn't trigger the counter).

Tricks of the trade, tricks of the trade...
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Posted 04/05/2009   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jdgarst0720 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find pen cancels interesting!
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Posted 04/05/2009   11:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting as in worth collecting? hehe
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Posted 04/05/2009   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everyone......

In my opinion.......

Early stamps are more acceptable with pen cancels than modern items, although given a choice I much prefer a CDC.....(circular date cancel) Many early pen cancels have some character....magic marker does not.
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Posted 04/05/2009   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stefanib123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't much like them. I think anyone can do this, like I could just grab a pen and mark my stamps and that would not in any way be "postal"! It ruins the exclusitivity of cancelled stamps.
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