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3 Washington 3c (65?) - Different Colors?

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Posted 04/10/2015   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many inks are metameric, hence the need to check/match under controlled lighting. What is a perfect match under incandescent light can often become a complete mismatch under daylight. Don is correct that the lighting conditions need to be defined in order to color match anything.

And FWIW, metamerism can be a good thing. Because of this it's possible to conclusively identify some tough shades by examining them under different light sources (such as UV.)

However, for comparing stamps to Munsell chips, the only way you'll get a good result is to do it under daylight (or per the Pittsboro guide, "north light on a bright cloudy day and never in direct sunlight,") or its next-best equivalent, an Ott light. Those were the conditions under which the chips were selected for the guide, so the conditions under which the stamps must be compared.

Of course, stamps change in color due to different printing runs, 100+ years of exposure to the elements & handling, etc. No set of chips will be perfect, but IMO the Pittsboro set is a very reasonably-priced, accurate set to get you in the ballpark. It would definitely eliminate many of the pink & pigeon blood wannabes listed on ebay, as they won't be even remotely close to the chip color.
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Posted 04/10/2015   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of our members (Ray Mac) a while back put together a great reference for #65 shades.


https://goscf.com/t/26411&SearchTerms=McClung
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Posted 04/10/2015   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of the other problems is that almost all of the reds & pinks scan "horribly." It's very difficult (actually impossible, IMO) to reproduce something like pigeon blood pink in a scan (or in print.) That makes these 3c shades among the most difficult to properly identify without having them in front of you -- actual side-by-side comparison with a reference is imperative.

About the only thing you can do from scans is rule possibilities out, and even that requires that the scanner be properly color calibrated (along with the viewing monitor.) If you show me a scanned brown red, I can conclusively rule out pigeon blood pink, but if you scanned a pigeon blood pink, there's no way anyone could say "yep, that's definitely it" from the scan alone.
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Posted 04/10/2015   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saw the Scotts color guide on Amazon, and it does say "with actual color chips from the Munsell Book of Color".

I might pick one up, but I would also like to hear opinions from anyone with the Scott version.
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Posted 04/10/2015   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Same here... I haven't checked what the Scott is going for on Amazon,
but HungaryForStamps mentioned the site below which has it for $43.99

http://www.subwaystamp.com/SC-SPECI...o/RSCU06TCG/
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