Hello again Mike, you identified both of them correctly. The perforation measurements are correct and both have a nearly circular oval around the bust.
These can be faked from coil stamps, but the top and bottom perfs appear to be genuine. To help determine if these perfs are real I performed a Srail test on it:

In case you missed it, here is a discussion of how to perform and evaluate a Srail test:
https://goscf.com/t/43032#43032Is there something else that you wanted information about?