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Posted 04/04/2009   01:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tina to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
here is another silly question what is a precancel
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Posted 04/04/2009   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tina,
Go to this topic thread. There is a great website link that can explain it better than me.
https://goscf.com/t/1458&SearchTerms=precancel
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Posted 04/04/2009   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tina... Those are Stamps cancelled by postal authority (for collectors) before use in mail
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Posted 04/04/2009   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Precancels are in simplest terms canceled before used.
What Johnstamps states is for what is known as "Cancel-to-order" stamps. Those stamps were canceled in advanced of sale to the collectors market, especial made available in Eastern Europe, the "Sand states", (not my term)and many other developing countries.
Precancels, however, were not designed for collectors, (not saying some may have been inspired by collectors), but by necessity. The were first used in the US for enterprising companies that wish to use the mails to sell their products.
The mailing were very large and to simplify the process stamps
were precancel, thus by passing the the need to cancel the mailings, it expedited the mail. Many Postmasters also ordered their postage due stamps precanceled, again to speed up the mailing processes.
The earliest known precancel is from 1847 Wheeling, VA, (now WV)
on both Scott #1&2, the precancel used here was a 7 bar circle using red ink over one corner of the stamps.
The earliest precancels are local in nature, that the local Postmaster authorized. Most are consider "silent" meaning there is no indication of the post office of origin. Many of this early precancels were done in pen, model paint brush, even crayons. They can be line or lines, bar or bars,
blocks, circles to name a few.
The city overprinted precancels start in the US in 1890 Boston & Salem, MA, Bay City & Lake Odessa, MI, also Brockport & Brooklyn, NY. These are all authorized by the PMG but still locally produced by local precancel device.
Starting in 1913,US PMG in order to standardize the precancel process began use contacted devices, that the PMG would take an order from a local PM sending them the contracted device to produce locally . Other devices
we used by the Bureau of Engraving And Printing. The Bureau's were issued when PM needed 250,000 or more.

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Edited by warrehouse - 04/04/2009 6:59 pm
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Posted 04/04/2009   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow did you explain that to me in your words cause you seem to really know all your stamps and history that is really neat id love to know just id say 1% of what you must know,welcome to the site I havent been on much lately had surgery on hand thanks for the knowledge you have given to me and probably a few others
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Posted 04/05/2009   04:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You Tina for your kind words! Well I'm glad your hands are better.
Yes, I did use my own words. But I had my books nearby if I questioned myself. I'll add more when I have more time and try to post exampe images
of these stamps when my printer/scanner get fixed.

Good Collecting!
Mike
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Posted 04/05/2009   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tina to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you are a very smart person I wish I had just alittle of your knowledge just to know the basic stuff for example covers,pre-cancels,cinderrellas,plate singles ect. ect. then I would know what I have here in my collection. I also wish I could scan and post pictures to the forum id have alot more post cause I read this forum alot to learn some things I dont reply to alot of what I read cause I sometimes dont understand some things I only have 1 scott book and its a 2003 volume 6
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Posted 04/05/2009   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well Tina, it's a start. We did not have the computers like this to talk so easy with others for help, so there was a lot more trial an error along the way. Glade I can be of some help. There are many others here as well take ill be a treasure trove of information.

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Mike
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