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Unused #449? Seeking Verification

 
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Posted 11/13/2015   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add themachine99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I believe this is a Scott #449, unused (no gum), with light bends at the top-left. It's definitely a rotary press printing. Design size matches my other rotary horizontal coils, and there are no flecks of ink on the back. I just wanted to verify this with the family before listing it on ebay, considering how scarce this issue is....







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Posted 11/13/2015   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Before I listed on ebay I would have it certified. No collector will drop that kind of money on a scarce W/F coil without a cert.
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Posted 11/13/2015   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add themachine99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer and/or anyone who has experience with submitting items for authentication, what group (PSE, PF or PSAG) would you recommend? I am amazed at how expensive it is to get a certificate, over $80 for a cheap stamp when all is said and done, and even more for a scarce stamp like a #449....

Thanks in advance for your opinions.
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Posted 11/13/2015   12:41 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Better rates from APS, and agree with Stallzer that you'll need a cert. That will help you know if it IS unused, or if a cancel has been removed, and what is really going on in the upper left corner. If it is a 449, that's a remarkably centered example, btw....good luck!
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Posted 11/13/2015   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add themachine99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ray.mac, are the rates better even for non APS members?
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Posted 11/13/2015   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look like a rotary press printing. Looks like a flat plate printing. What does the design measure? Also, the perforation holes/tabs do not line-up as a rotary stamp will top vs. bottom. Absence of set-off ink does not necessarily mean it is a rotary printing. Flat plate printing can have an absence of set-off ink. This is probably a #442, in my opinion.
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Posted 11/13/2015   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a 449. Aside from the distinctive shade, the top and bottom perforations would be aligned and fine lines would be narrower and sharper. The gap under Washington's ear would be more prominent.

The margins are large and have he crisp appearance of a genuine 442 coil. However, with the creases and no gum, the stamp doesn't have much marketability except as a space filler or part of a group lot.

Clark
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Edited by cfrphoto - 11/13/2015 5:30 pm
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Posted 11/13/2015   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add themachine99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Al E. Gator and Clark, thank you very much for the information! I was inspired to browse #449s on the USPhila site after reading your comments, and I can see the differences quite easily. I should have researched this issue more extensively at first.

Once again, thank you. I have gained a little more philatelic knowledge today.
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Posted 11/13/2015   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glad we could help you. W/Fs can be challenging
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