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Posted 12/06/2015   3:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add carlberky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In another topic, Don said, "In looking at your other offerings, I see a few more potential problems ... Perhaps some other folks could take a quick look at your store and assist with spotting any potential problems."

I agree wholeheartedly. I have never knowingly offered a misidentified stamp, and would greatly appreciate any help to avoid that ... particularly in the higher values.

When I decided to sell my collection, there where 380 pre-1920 stamps. As of now, I've sold 52 stamps (14%) representing 44% of the starting total value. Nothing was ever returned for any reason, and all that were sold received great feedback.

If any were misidentified, we will never know ... but we had happy buyers and a happy seller ... who was also happy when he bought them.

Don rightly feels that I should "nail down the IDs first". There are two reasons why I can't do that ... and why I need your help in possibly correcting some IDs.

One reason is economic. Of the 60 stamps (18%) that I have listed,
representing 56% of the remaining value, the average asking price is about $110. Certification is not feasible.

The alternative is to become an expert myself. Not going to happen! When these 60 stamps are gone, I'm through selling. The remaining 260 stamps will make a nice starter collection to some future niece or nephew.

Sorry if I'm lowering the bar for my seller standards ... which I think are still higher then most others.



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Posted 12/06/2015   3:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Carl,
Thank you for this, you seem like a decent guy and are open for improvement. For those interested, the link to his listings is
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...d=1&_ipg=200 br /
The #179 listings (2) both might be regummed, note the darkened perf tips. You might want to look a bit closer at the #228 and make sure it is really unused and not cleaned used. The #355 coil is suspect to my eye but perhaps Clark can offer his expert opinion.

I hope others will jump in and give you some further input, it not only will help you but also help our beloved hobby!
Don
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Edited by 51studebaker - 12/06/2015 3:32 pm
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Posted 12/06/2015   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For starters the stamp listed as Scott 455 is a trimmed sheet stamp. The top and bottom margins are too small and the top margin is crooked. Also, The 456, assuming it has a watermark is a horizontal coil. The perforations are vertical as is the watermark. The top and bottom edges of the stamp listed as 355 don't appear to be exactly parallel. No imperforate 4 or 5 cent horizontal coils were available to be perforated. Fakes are either trimmed sheet stamps or imperforate stamps trimmed by hand and perforated. Usually the edges don't pass because they are not exactly parallel or the characteristics of the trimmed edges lack the characteristics of hand assembled flat plate coils. The 354 appears to have been cut from imperforated stock and perforated. I cannot be 100% sure without examining the perforations under high magnification. Scott 387 is a very scarce stamp, grossly undercataloged. I don't believe this is a 387. The right and left perforations don't have much in common.

I believe that some of the no gum stamps are used. It is not appropriate to describe hinging on a stamp without gum. No gum stamps (except certain early Bureau postage dues) should be soaked and dried flat under light to moderate pressure. (Don't press out grills.) I didn't have time to go through the listings in detail. I did notice some issues with the Scott 76. Either it is reperforated on multiple sides or was cut out of a sheet with scissors. I advise potential buyers not to buy if they see something in the image they don't understand. I certainly don't understand the stain or repair close to the top margin. The stamp should be dipped to determine if any margins were added and checked to make sure that it is not a perforated proof. Also, the 190 with the fake grill is likely to be used. With all of the damage and defects, it would be worth $10 to $20 to an expertizer as reference, assuming that I am correct that it is used.

Also, check the old http://www.scads.org web site. If any of the listed stamps were bought from any of the dealers mentioned, they are suspect. If you live close to Washington, DC, it is possible to make an appointment to go to the Smithsonian to use the VSC-6000 and other equipment in the lab to examine the stamps for removed cancels, watermarks, repairs and other mischief.

I also was never a believer in "see scan for condition". Although ebay allows this practice with some limitations, images must be hosted on ebay. Links off ebay to substantive elements of the description are not allowed.

Finally, I suggest that the "COMPARE" links go away. I don't see how they can help. Often someone will be dumping some particular stamp at a lower price. To compete, it is necessary to establish a reputation for accurate descriptions and better quality fixed priced stamps.

I hope these comments are useful. I don't normally contact sellers with listings in need of modification because I have to sell in the same marketplace.

Clark
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Posted 12/06/2015   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add themachine99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see a few suspects....

1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-358-unus...AOSw4UtWRPAd I'd double check that this one is bluish paper. Though it's difficult to tell from the scan, it looks like normal paper to me.

2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-387-unus...AOSwTapV5haI Looks like fake perfs, especially when studying the right ones.

3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-355-unus...AOSwFnFWEZej No doubt a trimmed Scott #335.

4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-350-unus...AOSw0HVWBYjw Perfs look suspect to me.

5. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-351-unus...AOSwHjNWBYqC Same here, perfs look suspect. I could be wrong though, but something doesn't look right.

6. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-445-unus...AOSw9mFWK6oU Almost definitely a trimmed #426.

Hope this helps....

EDIT: Clark replied while I was typing this up.
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Edited by themachine99 - 12/06/2015 5:13 pm
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Posted 12/06/2015   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, folks, I expected a few waves ... but not a tsunami ! Please let me digest what has been put on my plate before you bring me dessert.
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Posted 12/06/2015   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, "The #179 listings (2) both might be re-gummed...". One is already RG and the other is NG.
"... look a bit closer at the #228 and make sure it is really unused and not cleaned used". Which one ... the no gum or the partial gum?
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Posted 12/06/2015   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not a good case for #387.



#387 is no longer listed.
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Posted 12/06/2015   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The '545' is a '525'
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Posted 12/06/2015   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
#355 ... Close ... but no cigar !



#355 is no longer listed.

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Posted 12/07/2015   12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the perfs for #456. The edges are torn, not cut.

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Posted 12/07/2015   01:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Carl, regarding the remaining 260 stamps, do you have any unmarried daughters? I want to get in line with the favored heirs. Surely a sharp son-in-law is preferable to a clueless nephew or niece.
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Posted 12/07/2015   01:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the perfs for #354. The jumbo margins makes me nervous, and there is no sign of tearing on the edges.

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#354 bits the dust!
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Posted 12/07/2015   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cipalermo, that almost sounds like an offer I can't refuse!
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Posted 12/07/2015   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"For starters the stamp listed as Scott 455 is a trimmed sheet stamp."

Clark, I have no listed #455. Could you have meant #445?
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Edited by carlberky - 12/07/2015 7:13 pm
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Posted 12/07/2015   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the perfs for #445 ... ouch!



It will be pulled immediately.
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Posted 12/07/2015   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carlberky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the perfs for #350 ...



... and #351



Both added to the fake file ...
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