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Posted 02/23/2016   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tombarr1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone, my name is Tom and I am new to the Stamp Community Forums. I recently got into collecting, but am having trouble trying to identify these Washington 3c's. I have included a few images below with corresponding numbers for easy discussion. Some of the scans I have uploaded include stamps that have already been identified - just looking for reassurance on these ones! Thanks everyone!




Above image is row a - stamp 1 & 2.




Above image is row b - stamps 1, 2 & 3. (Love the old looking letter number three is hinged on)




Above image is row c - stamps 1, 2, 3 & 4.




Above image is row d - stamps 1, 2, 3 & 4.




Above image is row e - stamps 1, 2, 3 & 4.




Above image is row f - stamps 1, 2, 3 & 4.




Above image is row g - stamps 1, 2 & 3. (Really love the cancellations on the first couple in this group.)




And last but not least is row h - stamps 1 & 2.

Thanks again ahead of time for the help guys!

Best,

Tom.
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Posted 02/23/2016   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tom, and a very welcome to this forum. You have quite a nice collection of the 3 cent Washingtons there, and some of the cancels really impress me. The only one I dare ID-ing is the second 'stamp' on row 1. It is not a stamp, but a 'cut square', a piece of a printed, embossed envelope.
As far as the rest go, I believe others are more qualified to give an opinion!

Peter
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Posted 02/23/2016   08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply Peter. Is there a scott number assigned to the cut square on the embossed envelope? Can't seem to find this particular embossment anywhere! Have seen many similar, but can't seem to find the 2 cent.

Tom

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Posted 02/23/2016   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also, does anyone know about the cancellations in row G - stamps 1 & 2? Love those ones.
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Posted 02/23/2016   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess on the cut square envelope: SC U277.
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Posted 02/23/2016   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try U288. The picture is not very clear, but that is my best guess on the cut square.

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Posted 02/23/2016   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Row a stamp 1 = #26
Row b stamp 1 = #26
Row c stamp 1 = #26

I can't help with identifying cancels. Nice group though. Also I wonder if Row e stamp 2 isn't a pink shade?

I really like row h stamp 2. SON fancy cancel, nice strong grill and excellent centering. That's lovely.
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Posted 02/23/2016   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, really appreciate the input. I tried to get the best scans as possible. Maybe I just need a better scanner. :(. Nonetheless a beautiful cut square.
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Posted 02/23/2016   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you stampcrow! Seems like the previous collector had a couple mishaps!

Best,

Tom
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I agree with Peter that the cut square could be U288 ... or actually any of U288 thru U292, depending on the color of the envelope. These are all 1884 issues. Since U290 is on blue paper, you can eliminate it. The envelope colors are as follows:
U288 white, U289 amber, U290 blue, U291 fawn, U292 manila
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Posted 02/23/2016   12:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very informative thank you JLLebbert!!
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row h, stamp 2 ---looks like well-centered used 94 (F grill) but not easy to count points from front. nibbed perf upper right Cool cancel-

always would love to know how to tell definite pink variety- agree with stampcrow that row e, stmp 2 is perhaps pinkish shade.

you got some rose pinks, I think. cancels in row G are great! thanks for sharing
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Posted 02/23/2016   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thank you stampcrow! Seems like the previous collector had a couple mishaps!

If you're referring to the penciled number 44 markings..., some years ago, that would have been a correct Scott number for those stamps.

The notation that's puzzling is row b stamp #2. Noted 65. Even in my 1944 catalog, a Scott #65 is the 1861 issue 3 cent stamp.

It may be just coincidence that the 44 notations match those stamps correctly.
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Posted 02/23/2016   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ThomasGalloway to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with chasa on the cut square, it's a U277.

The die for U288 has a much more rounded back of bust. The following admonition appears near the U288 listings in the UPSS 19th Century Envelope catalog: "Note: any less rounding of the lower back of the bust than shown for Die 82 indicates that the stamp is a worn Die 81 and not Die 82".

The scan in the OP shows a back-of-bust that is roughly halfway between a very pointy U277 and a U288.

[for those unfamiliar with the UPSS nomenclature, Die 81=U277 and Die 82=U288]
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Edited by ThomasGalloway - 02/23/2016 1:37 pm
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Posted 02/23/2016   2:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tombarr1967 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all! This is wonderful!
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Posted 02/23/2016   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With ThomasGalloway's info on the worn die and another peek at Scott, I must agree ... U277 it is.
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