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Better Prices On US Classics At European Auctions?

 
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Posted 06/23/2016   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ashuber to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I collect US classics and have recently been buying a lot from European auction houses - mainly things I find of Philasearch.com

I have dealt mainly with German auctioneers.

Though I have only been collecting US for the past 2 years it seems to me that some of the prices realized at these European auctioneers are better than their competitors in the USA.

Here is an example of some lots that sold recently from Veuskens last week:

http://veuskens.eisert.cc/en/dosear...ureview=list

With the US / EUR exchange rate at $1.13 it could be advantageous to look overseas for US stamps.
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Posted 06/23/2016   09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't connect on the link just now (site maintenance) but did you mean "better prices" for the buyer or the seller?
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Posted 06/23/2016   10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the "Price (no guarantee)" figures reported for lots under the Auction Results tab are accurate, then the prices appear considerably lower for equal quality material sold in US auctions. Thus much better for buyers, much worse for sellers.
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Posted 06/23/2016   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I collect U.S MNH and the price I pay here in Canada is much lower than in the States. The reason is that there is way fewer U.S collectors here and much less competition for the high quality stamps that I want. For someone paying in U.S $ with the dollar worth $1.25 CDN you are getting a discount on a discount! The downside is the are no dealers here that specialize in U.S stamps, so you really have to be patient.
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Posted 06/23/2016   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashuber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I meant better prices for the buyer. There is a good amount of US material and collections that pass though the European auctions, probably much more than in Canada.

I pay in Euros using a service called Transferwise that lets you send wire transfers in any currency from a US bank account. The fee they charge is only a few bucks and saves a huge amount over sending a conventional wire transfer from your bank branch.

You also save on sales tax or VAT if you are outside of the EU.
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Posted 06/23/2016   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ashuber, you are correct, much more U.S material goes to European auction houses. My point is that 95% of serious Canadian collectors are BNA collectors. Therefore the 6 or 7 lots of U.S material at all auctions aren't being bid on. Foe example at Maresch Auctions here in Toronto I paid $365.00 for 7 complete Lindner binders with the pages and all the stamps that go on said pages along with 375.00 of face. That's $292. U.S incl. buyers premium and tax. You just can't beat it.
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Posted 06/24/2016   12:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashuber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Stuart for your tip about Canadian auctions. I will definitely check more of those out in the future.
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Posted 06/24/2016   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Pound Sterling is plummeting today with the Brexit vote, so anything from British sellers will be much cheaper as a result (for those living outside Britain, of course).
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Posted 06/24/2016   9:46 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
just don't forget to take shipping into account
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Posted 06/26/2016   12:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashuber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So far all auctions from the EU that I have participated in have charged very reasonable shipping rates between 7.50 - 10 EUR for registered airmail.
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Posted 06/26/2016   9:31 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ashuber - sounds reasonable - I take it you were buying individual stamps and not collections
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Posted 06/27/2016   04:25 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my experience, UK auction houses tend to post on a next day, signed-for basis. Tracked and signed for 2 kilos to the US would be around £22. Heavier than that would probably be by courier, not Royal Mail. So not a killer if the lot were of reasonable value.
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