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It Could Have Been A Contender # 67 W/Faults?

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Posted 11/04/2016   6:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
We did ID this stamp as design A26. Is it a # 67? I am sure that many of you folks would not want this stamp in your collection! Does this stamp have any market value. CV ? $900, Before it's fight!






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Posted 11/04/2016   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
this is not the 'buff' SC 67... the choices are either SC 75 or 76, it might be a 75
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Posted 11/04/2016   7:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On my monitor it is too brown for a #75.
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Posted 11/04/2016   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks more brown than reddish brown to me but that could be either your scan, my monitor or both. How about scanning it alongside another 'brown' colored stamp and preferably one that is 'red brown' also, taken in one scan. Better guesses will be had by all.
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Posted 11/04/2016   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very late night buy as a # 67. If it is a # 76 in this condition, should I use it for kindling, It is starting to get cold in New England!
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Posted 11/04/2016   8:42 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't throw it out. I am sure a young kid just getting into collecting would love to have it.
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Posted 11/04/2016   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks clearly like a 76 to me.
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Posted 11/04/2016   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks to all of you for your help with the ID. # 76

I will see if there is a market for this stamp in this condition.

If not, I will gladly send it as a gift to an interested youngster.

Stay tuned!
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Posted 11/04/2016   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rlm, if someone sold this to you as a #67 it was misdescribed. Can you return for a refund?
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Thanks dudley for that thought.

It has been quite a while since I bought that stamp.

I paid under twenty dollars for it. It was a late night and it did look
good at the time.

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Posted 11/06/2016   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

As suggested by Caper123.

When I looked, I did find a ? # 76. Put next to each other the original
does look more red brown to me. Would that possibly make the original stamp a # 75, and the one next to it a # 76?




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Posted 11/06/2016   1:36 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I remember correctly, a few years ago Bill Weiss posted that 75 vs 76 could be identified easily by some type of detail in the background and the color was not necessarily needed for the ID. I'm not an expert on this stamp so I can't quote it however if interested you might be able to look back in the archives to see if you can find that post.

I looked in my Brookman's, and the difference in the two printings is not mentioned.

Neither of your examples looks like the #75 Red Brown to me by the way....hope this helps, Ray
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Bill said,

Quote:
I'm going to give readers an easy tip about the 5c 1862-63 stamps that is virtually always true. The area above Jefferson's head, in the vignette; on #76 (and shades) that area is virtually always finely printed and the crosshatching design is sharp, whereas on #75 and shades, that area is usually "muddy" or fuzzy. That information was only ever published by Lester Brookman and only as part of the Addendum of the book, which is why it is often overlooked. But whenever you get confused about which Scott number stamp you have, remember this tip!


https://goscf.com/t/37948&SearchTerms=75,76

Good memory Ray!
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I'll probably get some feedback on this one, but here we go:

I have been playing around with my digitalcolor meter that is a built in program on all mac computers (you can search for it in finder)

The above stamps are basically exact same color based on RGB (red, green, blue percentages) in the darkest areas of the stamp-- this suggests both stamps are scott #76, brown (as per Ray's opinion)

To be more exact, my monitor reads them as bistre or cafe noir (shades of brown)... there is not enough red to characterize them as red brown.

appox average measurements for above 2 stamps in darkest brown areas are R 29%, G 18%, B 13%. Both stamps read just about equivalent suggesting they are same scott number.

I know, perhaps scanner and monitor may play role in "distorting color"... but do these computer programs allow a more scientific way of determining color than a naked eye.

It seems easy to go thru this exercise but accuracy of the digital color meter built into mac is questionable-- I must assume however that if the rgb percentages are equivalent for these stamps, the scans were not color altered by the OP, and the same computer and scanner were utilized... I think its safe to at least say these stamps are THE SAME COLOR?
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That's a good tip from Bill, but in reality the color difference between 75 and 76 is hard to miss once you know what they look like. Here's a couple of examples taken at random from current ebay listings. The red brown shade of #75 (on the left) is pretty distinctive.



ETA: Yes, both of rlmstamps' examples are #76.
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Ray, Don, and to all.

Thank you kindly for some excellent information. After reading the above referenced thread, we took our scan and magnified it. The area mentioned
both seem to look the same. Would I have to assume that they are just two shades of # 76?
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