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Posted 07/28/2009   03:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Tony,

I only find out the picture of the above one,this set of revenue stamp named "LiuHeTaTu",no more details,sorry.



Regards,
ZhangCheng
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Posted 07/28/2009   05:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tony,

The top stamp (1c brown) is a Chinese revenue, sometimes referred to as the Liu-Ho (or Liuhe) Pagoda issue.

There are 4 distinctly different printings.

1. Engraved -- set of 8 perforated
2. King-Hua printing -- set of 10 large perforation and set of 7 fine perforation
3. Da-Tung printing -- set of 10 rouletted and set of 7 perforated
4. Pai-Chen printing -- set of 5 rouletted and set of 6 perforated

In addition, 9 of these stamps have been surcharged.

The scan shown by Zhang is a mixture of stamps from the various printings and surcharges.

I cannot tell which printing your stamp is from, partly because of the Moire patterns that appeared when you scanned the stamp. You can check the stamp yourself; but it looks like you have might have the engraved printing.

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Posted 07/28/2009   11:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Khj,thanks a lot for the details,they are very helpful for me!And I will let the owner know this great details immediately.

Thanks again.
ZhangCheng
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Posted 07/28/2009   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ZhangCheng,

I mis-typed concerning the 3 stamps with an overprint in your scan. Since you can read Chinese, you probably already knew, they are not surcharges but Shanghai overprints.

I mentioned that 9 stamps are known with surcharges in my previous post.

I did not mention that there are many regional overprints (too many to list). So your scan shows some of those overprints, not surcharges.

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Posted 07/28/2009   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Khj,

Thanks for the prompt.

The "ÉϺ£ÌØÇø" is mean "Shanghai special district"as metaphrase,I do not know why for overprint,I guess it was limited use only in Shanghai...

Thanks again for everything you have done.

ZhangCheng







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Edited by ZhangCheng - 07/28/2009 7:18 pm
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Posted 07/28/2009   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot say for certain on this particular revenue. It may have been done simply for accounting purposes.
[EDIT: OK, I wasn't satisfied with my guess, so I did some additional research. The results are shown in a later posting in this thread.]

However, for Chinese POSTAGE STAMPS, many (not all) of the regional/district overprints on stamps of the regional inflationary period were done so to prevent people from taking advantage of localized currency depreciation and profiting off the purchase/transport/sale of postage stamps among different regions. Of course, once the inflation began affecting the entire country, these types of transactions were no longer a problem.

Note that this is different from the Kansas-Nebraska overprints on certain US stamps discussed in another thread. Those overprints were made to combat actual theft of stamps and subsequent resale in another state.
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Edited by khj - 07/29/2009 5:59 pm
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Posted 07/28/2009   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Khj for your wonderful analysis.
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Posted 07/29/2009   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I do not know why for overprint,I guess it was limited use only in Shanghai...

OK, I did some research on this particular overprint on this revenue stamp.

They were overprinted during the Japanese occupation of Shanghai. I would assume that you could only use the ones overprinted, that way the Japanese controlled government was assured of getting the generated revenue.

A total of 6 of those revenues were overprinted in this manner for this purpose. Zhang Cheng, it appears that your friend has 3 of them.

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Posted 07/30/2009   01:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZhangCheng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks Khj,you provide a very valuable information of this revenue stamp.

To record the history of the country is one of the important role of stamps,the tortuous modern history of China(1840-1949) produced a lot of overprint and surcharge stamps,to learn to understand their produce process,my mood always is not calm.

Thanks again Khj for your information,I really appreciate your help.
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Edited by ZhangCheng - 07/30/2009 01:17 am
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