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Us: Washington 3 Cent Grill: What Stamp And Grill Is It?

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Posted 12/05/2016   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All,
I just found a 3cent washington stamp. It looks like a raised grill? Do I have to take it out o the book to find grill type? The album says stamp #74. Thank you in advance!


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Posted 12/05/2016   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does appear to have a grill; but do not put much weight in where it was previously mounted (always verify). Can you scan the back of the stamp?
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Posted 12/05/2016   2:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Elisa, you do not have to remove it, but it makes checking it a whole lot easier and more accurate if you take it off the page carefully. When you attempt to do it make sure the hinge comes off the page, not the stamp.

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Posted 12/05/2016   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi
here is a picture of the back of the stamp.
Thank you.



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Posted 12/05/2016   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all,
In addition to grill marks - what about color?! #74 says it would be scarlet.
Thanks
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Posted 12/05/2016   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not #74, which was ungrilled. It is considered a trial printing, and the color is distinctive. Many "used" examples come from a dealer who obtained them from the Post Office through some deal and "canceled" them with four horizontal pen strokes (these actually never went through the mail and could still have OG)

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Posted 12/06/2016   12:02 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Elisa, would be much easier to ID if you were able to scan the stamp instead of sending a snapshot. Need more detail.

From the front, it looks like the grill isn't straight, but can't see it well enough from the back of the stamp at all.

The shade is too deep to be an experimental grill "C", "D" or "Z"-- they are only available in dull rose. Your stamp is darker than those-- but also, it looks very wide, so I'm wondering if it's not a genuine grill. We'd have to see a better image, and I'm only guessing here, without seeing the grill with a detailed image.

Sorry and hope this helps, Ray
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Posted 12/06/2016   12:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My preliminary count suggests this grill is 18 points in height. I cannot be sure of the horizontal count, but cannot rule out either 14 or 15 points in width. 15x18 would be the size for a "D" grill (Scott #85) and 14x18 would be in range for a Z-grill (#85C). It is imperative that we get a good sharp image to pin down what you really do have, but it has some potential. The grill appears well impressed and should not be hard to "read" with a good scan. Since your original picture is dark, we cannot reliably tell the range of its shade.

If you can scan it into your computer, please scan the reverse and upload it. If not take it to Office Max, or someplace like that, and have them put a scan of the back side on a flash drive for you. Then upload it to us so we can tell what you have.
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Posted 12/06/2016   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
new photo of back of stamp

Is it a raised grill?



Thanks
Elisa
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Posted 12/06/2016   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My 2 cents it's a Scott 94 1861 issue with F grill.
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Posted 12/06/2016   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is another picture of front

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Posted 12/06/2016   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are making this image with a camera, it would be particularly useful to have an image of the back with strong side-lighting to show the shadows of the grill pattern. If done with a scanner, it would be useful to have a scan of the back with the contrast/brightness cranked to a hi/low limit, again, to emphasize the grill.
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Posted 12/06/2016   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Only for comparison,

This link is to a PSE certed # 94 with F grill I put out on
ebay this week. PSE stated 1867 Red. The Cert is included in the listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Stamp-94...TRK:MESCX:IT
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Posted 12/06/2016   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay. With a clearer pic I am consistently counting 14x17. E grill, Scott 88.
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Posted 12/06/2016   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This might help:

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Posted 12/06/2016   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lisaelisa60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you - too bad we couldn't find one more row to make 18!
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