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i am a little reluctant to talk about stamp "values" but I am a raw recruit on pre cancels...i have many nice pre cancelled Franklins...9 cent, 11 cent, 20 cent, 30 cent etc: that would catalog fairly high if not pre cancelled..please tell me the effect of the precancel on the stamp as far as catalog value..i am almost afraid to ask !! |
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From my understanding the value of a precancel has nothing to do with the stamp itself, it has to do with the cancel. Phil, check out the PSS website for more info. |
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Theoretically, It is the stamp listed value plus the precancel value. In practice if the value of the precancel is greater then then normal stamp, precancel value is used. If stamp is of a higher value it becomes blurry. Many collectors & dealers of US stamps have no interest in precancels, they don't understand them, sometimes they sell them at reduce rates like they were damaged or try to sell them at the same value as the standard issue & wonder way no one buys them. They don't know how to market them. The precancel itself trumps the stamp and it's condition. An example would be a precancel valued at $60 on a damaged 1cent Prexie, worthless in that condition, can sell for $30 or more dollars depending on need and availability.
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Thanks Mike, I have a thing about damaged stamps...but in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king..i know with 19th century Guatemala covers ..condition of the cover is almost irrevelent.they expect it to be beat up !! |
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i now have pre cancelled Washingtons and Franklins that I do not have the original stamp in my U.S. album..now the question only I can answer...do I use a precancel to fill the space ? |
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what a fantastic thread..i have been plummeted into a new world..i will check how many different Minnesota town cancels I have... |
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Prexie "Silent" Precancels:
Strathmore, CA on 804, 3 stencel horz. lines Ormond Beach, FL on 816, 4 vertical rectangles Nachusa, IL on 804, 3 horz. lines Leesburg, IN on 804, 1 ruled vert. line West Lebanon, IN on 806, 1-4 horz. long wavy lines Mulvane, KS on 804, 3 horz. lines Paris, KY on 804, 1 vert. brush stroke Federalsburg, MD on 848, 3 horz. lines Federalsburg, MD on 804, 5 horz. lines Federalsburg, MD on 2 803, & 804, double oval, donut shape, oval covers 2 803 50/50 Federalsburg, MD on 3 803 all together, with sea wavy lines Cologne, MN on 804 & 805, 5-6 hriz. lines West Plains, MO on 840, 1-2 vert. long wavy lines Wildwood, NJ on 803, 45% diagonals .25mm apart, between 2 lines Westbury, NY on 804, 4 horz. lines Woodstock, NY on 805, 1 vert. bar Clifton Park, PA on 839, 6 wavy lines Ponce, PR on 839, a square with 3 lines extending outward Bethel, VT on 805, 1 vert. smudged bar Oregon, WI on 804, 3 horz. bars |
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Quote: The 1.5-2 million figure is for all US precancels, not just the Prexies. I'm quoting myself here and nobody called me on this but since it was a bit ambiguous, it merits a clarification. There are not 1.5 to 2 million LOCAL PRECANCEL types. Rather there are that many different LOCAL PRECANCELED stamps. For example, the same local type may be on 100 different Scott numbers. So that would be 100 different precanceled Scott numbers but all with only 1 local precancel type. Is this clear or did I muddy the water? Marty |
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Quote: Many collectors & dealers of US stamps have no interest in precancels, they don't understand them, sometimes they sell them at reduce rates Phil, I have a good example in line with Mike's quote. It is a Scott 342 $1.00 Washington with a Philadelphia, PA precancel. I think it is valued around $80.00. I picked it up for around $5.00 off of ebay last year. Marty |
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Another silent Prexie precancel.
On Scott 804, 6 printed lines, each .2mm wide, spread over 16.75mm. This is a local, but origin is unknown.
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| Edited by warrehouse - 09/20/2009 3:57 pm |
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Well, I received a pre cancel catalog in a $10.35 priority box from Bobgggg today..so I guess I will be taking pre cancels seriously !! |
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Mike,
Your list of silent Prexie precancels is motivating me to check all my prexies. Thanks
Marty |
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