Belgium: The "Pizza Wheel" Roller Cancel.

Seems to be the common vernacular for these fellows.
Singularly, unappealing, nice as a page.
A continuous roller cancel used for:
Postal Savings or deposit accounting.
Bank Revenues
Parcels
Cancelling "skips"
and Precancels.
I'd welcome any correction, or gossip.

Hi Rod.....

I've been told they are precancels.

I've always thought of them as precancels, too, but I don't know why I think that...I like them when they are crisply printed.

Belgium looks like an interesting country to collect. I considered specialising in the country, at one time.

Does anyone, on this board, specialise in Belgium?

David

Belgium is a neat country to collect (at least through about World War II...I don't know much about it after that). I can't say that I specialize at all, but I have accumulated a bunch of it. A lot of it is inexpensive, so you can fill pages for relatively low dough. Belgium lots generally attract very few bids at our local auctions.

Pleasing airmails, Sunday-delivery tabs, nice cancels, overprints aplenty, occupations, Antarctic dalliances, lots of back of the book options. What's not to like?

Yes, I remember hearing that they're precancels, too.

I tried and it lasted about 1 month...too much B.O.B. esp semi's

http://www.precancels.com/foreign/belgium688.htm

Thanks for the comments, guys, I think these roller cancels
addressed all the usages shown in the initial post.

Excellent precis by Collin, that's how I started collecting,
countries that attracted few bids at auction, so I could get lots of stamps on a budget.
Romania was one of the first, and that has become a quite a challenge. 6000 stamps and still counting

Really like these roller cancels. Great posting, Rod. It's a pity that Australia Post cannot learn from cancels such as these & stop using the horrible digital obliterators when it could be so easy to do something as attractive as these little beauties.

Agreed KG5
Of course the big problem with the thermal dot matrix, is the length of the cancel,
one needs to keep the entire cover for example,
Then again, dedicated cancels for towns are leaving us,
and "regional" cancellations are the thing.
Philately is in flux, and we must adapt, or
remain trapped in pre 1960's :)

I have not touched decimal for a good five years now. It is such a shock to be knee deep in modern cancels again. Yes I need to adjust and take on a totally new approach. A dinosaur KGV

"Trapped" is such an ugly word. I prefer "ensconced."

My 2 cents!
These cancel shown by Rod222 are not precancels.
All Belgium precancels from 1894-1938 are overprinted with city name & year within a rectangular box. In 1930 the 1st generic version of the Belgium precancel was released with "Belgium & year" and in 1938 all rectangular precancels were overprinted Belgium & year & 1937 was the last year for the city types.
Then in 1938, Belgium went to keg shape overprint with the generic "Belgium & year", but would add the month in roman numerals, "I-VII". In 1939 the keg design would replace the added inscription of "Belgium" with the Post horn and the month again in roman numerals for January & February only as the keg design would be dropped. Belgium's in 1939 actually had 3 designs running simultaneously for awhile. The second design returned to the rectangular box with a Post horn & year. The 3rd becomes a little more mind boggling by using the aforementioned design and adding a beginning date & ending date with the year.
Example 1-I-39 (start date above post horn) 31-X11-39 (below post horn) which continued on to 1954.
That year they started using Year over post horn over the first being 1954/1955.
But the precancel was simplified to just using an overprinted post horn over year in 1963.
Then in 1967 the rectangle was modified to cut off each of the 4 corners, the post horn was also redrawn into a more stylised figure and finally the year markings were dropped. This went on till 1993, but I have no updated info beyond that year.

Michel has quite a decent summary about this cancel type.

It was used for postal savings or chargeback purposes, or for late cancellations (porto). Cat. value for items with this cancel is usually about 1/3 or 1/2 of normal used.

But these are definitely not pre-cancels - warrehouse's reply about Belgian precancels was somewhat good simplified primer about them.

I respond, primarily to justify my original post,
I enclose my source, which certainly is not proof
of usage.
The poster from 1999 follows from a Mr. Jay Carrigan's
commentary, which I would value highly.
The poster "GI" suggests these appear on cover as pre cancels.

Based on that evidence, one surely must keep an open mind
or could members suggest perhaps a faulty assumption?

well..this kind of cancel is much more better than pen cancels