Two "Mystery" Washingtons - Imprint And China 80 Overprint

Hello,
i have questions about theese two, about green - how rarely this imprint happen? and about red - where I can found reference of this overprint?, in Scott I don´t see it.
Thank you for help

Re: The 1 cent Green. While not common it is also not uncommon. This happens when the sheets are not fully dry when the next sheet is put on top of it. I have never seen this command a premium. just a curiosity that's all.

As for the China overprint I suspect a Fantasy/Bogus overprint however I really don't know. I will wait and see what others say.

Regarding the green 1¢, I believe that is a repair job done to a paper roll where it tore as it was being fed into the printing machine, and repaired. These repairs, while infrequent, often resulted in a few double-papered stamps.

red one,
there never was a overprint /surcharge for US offices in china like yours.
All overprints were in black ink, and all overprints were only twice the stamp value.
4 on 2, 2c on 1c etc..
also all the overprints were labeled "Shanghai China" with either the amount being 4c or 4 cts.

The one you have is a fantasy/bogus stamp. I tend to use the term bogus, becuase most people do this to try and increase the value of the stamp.

thank you for opinions

both of them was in old album of USA stamps buy for few bucks.
Red one stamp was used overprinted I try to use microscope, but it looks like chinesse letter on cancelation.

I took a closer look. Revstampan is right on. It is two overlaid sheets.

Yeah, that would appear to be fake, too.

The wavy line cancel is genuine.

Can't tell for sure from the scan, but it looks like overprint is on top and not below the wavy line cancel. Furthermore, it looks like the circular cancel is on top of the overprint.

This would have to be examined physically to verify, but basically looks like genuine used wavy line cancel, with fake circular cancel on top of a fake overprint. In an unaltered stamp, the overprint should be beneath both cancels.

The overprint lettering and ink looks like something from a simple children/office printing kit.

My opinion based on the pic.

thank you,
i used magnifier and better light and:
A)circular cancel is on top of the overprint definetly
b)wavy line cancel looks like below overprint with letter C, but with number 80 and bottom of letter h and n it looks like on top.

about simple children/office printing kit many my cancelation from chinese and korean looks like made by printing kit

I "understand" when someone create overprint and try sell it as a super rarity, but this stamp was hidden in album under few of red Washingtons.

There are few mystery questions
1) Why create overprint on canceled stamp (if it was canceled by waves)
2) Why used one american and one chinese cancelation (if it was not canceled, and if circular is realy chinese)
3) Why 80? What it can means?

This is just guesswork...

1. Person doing so was probably a beginner at altering stamps, and didn't realize that's one of the things we look at when identifying altered/fake stamps.

2. Probably to make it looked like it was mailed from China to the US. I can't figure out the circular cancel, so I'll take your word for it that it contains Asian script.

3. 80 years later, people will be scratching their heads trying to figure out the mystery?

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If you notice, the wavy line cancel is very weakly inked in those areas. I think what you are actually seeing over the 80/h/n are still the inside script parts of the circular cancel. That is still a guess, since I cannot physically examine the stamp.

American Stamp, overprinted to use in China Imperial Period.
Such as



It is easy to be found in China.