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Robert Schuman Portrait

 
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Posted 08/05/2010   6:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Tony Vella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




The same portrait of Robert Schumann was used by both Germany and Russia on their stamps. I have discovered that the portrait was lithographed by Anton Kriehuber in 1838 but I cannot find who painted the original in the first place. Any help appreciated.
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Posted 08/05/2010   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Anton Kriehuber

Josef Kriehuber?
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Posted 08/05/2010   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know the original painter. You can try contacting the Hulton Archive for information, as they sell reprints of the lithograph.

Also, I'm not sure they are taken from the same lithograph. I've seen 2 images that are very similar but slightly different, just like there are slight differences in the portrait in the 2 stamps. Don't know if that is designer's freedom, or maybe they really did use different sources?

A note of interest for collectors, the original DDR stamp had a design error. The music in the background was Schubert's in the original issue. The reissue put in the Schumann's music, as shown in Tony's pic.
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Posted 08/05/2010   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anton brings up Josef on Google,
as he was a painter and lithographer
one would have to imagine there is a strong
argument he was the designer,
I would think there is no need to look deeper.




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Edited by rod222 - 08/05/2010 7:46 pm
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Posted 08/05/2010   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gaff to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. The DDR stamp joined my collection a few weeks ago...

I have what appears to be a CTO (has glue on the back, but cancel on the front) red version of the above, but with the music from the green stamp in Rod's post. So different that either of the red stamps above.

Does anyone know which piece is Schubert vs Schumann?
(I don't have a Scott catalog, piano, or skills to decipher on my own).
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Posted 08/05/2010   11:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Does anyone know which piece is Schubert vs Schumann?

In the pic Rod provided just above your post, the stamp at left has the Schubert music while the stamp at right has the correct Schumann music.
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So: I have the red stamp, but with the Schubert music.

Any musicologists out there know: were these guys more buddies or rivals back in their day?

Faux pas of faux pases (sic?) to have your rival's music printed on your commemorative stamp, eh?
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Posted 08/05/2010   11:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tony Vella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Puccini asked for Verdi's Requiem to be played at his (Puccini's) funeral.
At Pavarotti's funeral they played a recording of Gounod's Ave Maria by Plácido Domingo.
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In the event that it might be of interest to others, I have been asked privately to indicate the titles of the two compositions shown on the stamps.
These titles have been provided to me on another forum.
The Schubert music is the Wanderers Nachtlied (Goethe), D. 768
The Schumann music is the Mondnacht (Eichendorff), op. 39, no.5
Also thanks to all for your contributions.
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