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Posted 08/22/2010   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add raywrio to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Ok the first thing that caught my eye is the cancel. It's a griffin with a man riding on it. Next is the date 1914 and then the country Deutsche Reich. Now my question is wasn't Germany named "Deutsche Reich" during the Nazi era? But in 1914 WWI didn't even end. Need some help understanding country name versus date. Thanks.

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Posted 08/22/2010   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Deutsche = German
Reich = Kingdom/Empire

The 1st Reich ended 1870-1871(Depends on who you consult)Basically Consisted of the time between the Holy Roman Empire of The German Nation(15th Century) and the Unification.

The 2nd Reich(1870-1918) was before and during of the First WW.

WWII Germany was the "3rd Deutsche Reich" or the 3rd German Empire.

Superb cancel
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Edited by revstampman - 08/22/2010 9:03 pm
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Posted 08/22/2010   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, what a terrific cancel.
Immediately thought of Harry Potter, or Goya
I'll have to look up my heraldry book, to see the
significance of the griffin.

update: nope, not much, except the griffin on your stamp is female,
the male griffin does not have wings.

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Edited by rod222 - 08/22/2010 9:14 pm
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Posted 08/22/2010   9:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'll have to look up my heraldry book, to see the
significance of the griffin.


Valour, bravery if I remember correctly.
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Posted 08/22/2010   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rawrio

About the cancel, it look like the greek mythology. It's Pegasus ride by Poseidon. But Pegasus was a horse... Very nice cancel indeed.
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Posted 08/22/2010   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Revman :)

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Posted 08/22/2010   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rawrio
1914 was the 100 anniversary of the german confederation. So maybe that's the reason of this cancel and looking at the coast of arm of germany I believed they replace the horse by an eagle or griffin. Daniel
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Posted 08/22/2010   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raywrio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all of you and the great info. And rod I thought the same thing Harry Potter riding the griffin.
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Posted 08/22/2010   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, Ray,
to encourage my son to read, I used subterfuge, I would
read him a chapter of Potter every evening, but stop short
at the end, and he was allowed to keep the light on if he
wanted to read to the end of the chapter.

That worked well, but it sucked me in as well,
I ended up reading them all myself (before him)


Harry....Potter




Actually, I thought the Griffin may have been on the Hogwarts
coat of arms...alas no.

"Draco Dormiens nunquam titillandus"

(Let sleeping Dragons lie...")

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Edited by rod222 - 08/22/2010 11:08 pm
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Posted 08/22/2010   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raywrio to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod nice stamp, Harry the potterer.
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Posted 08/23/2010   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
About the Spain stamp with the Goya painting, "Disparate volante" The translator translate by "Flying silly remark". It's quite sarcastic for an airmail stamp if someone can read the small characters. I like this stamp! Daniel
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Posted 08/23/2010   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I share your appreciation Daniel,
one of my favourite personalities / painters /cartoonists.

The mould was broken with this fellow, his artwork
is just out of this world, he was a real scallywag.

Look for a painting on the wall of his villa "Saturn eating his son"

He had issues I think with perceived insanity
towards the end of his life, and if you have ever read
of the atrocities of Napolean's retreating troops during
their retreat through Portugal and Spain, in the
peninsular war (something Goya may have witnessed) you
can imagine that fear to be well founded.

Some other works :








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Posted 08/23/2010   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well rod222 I'm new on the forum but I am realy astonish about what I can read and see on the forum. Allot of you guys have great culture and knowledge and not only on philately. I have a painting collection and I learned allot on Van Gogh. But in the last months I haven't bought allot for this collection. Probably I will evantually get rid of it somehow. I'm like that when I have a collection that sleeps to long I sell with no regret. But then I don't know, looking at Goya stamps. You got me confuse. I like philately and this forum. Ok for now. Daniel
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