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Washington - Reverse Precancel

 
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Posted 09/06/2010   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add cdnum to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

Maybe you know what is write on.

Is a precancel like that is common?

Thank you!

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Posted 09/06/2010   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The precancel reads "Racine, Wis"

Someone else will have to tell you how common it is.
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Posted 09/06/2010   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the Scott # is 720.. says there are 64 different bureau precancels
doesn't mention the backwards one.
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I don't understand how it is possible to have a stamp with a precancel like that... normal invert is possible but a look like that is for me an interrogation.

Maybe someone can explain that...

stampvirgin : Where can I have more information on precancel?

Thank you!
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Edited by cdnum - 09/06/2010 5:11 pm
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the information was in my scotts 2008 US specialized.. I'm sure if you google you should find something you there about pre-cancels

here is the thing.. that cancel looks not only backwards, but looks like something else is underneath it.. from all the ink on it...
I have never seen a upsidedown precancel but I'm no expert...

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Edited by stampvirgin - 09/06/2010 5:37 pm
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it is an inverted precancel with what looks like too much ink on the die.
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your Racine, WI precancel is type 232 .15 value. About half of all these on the 3c Washington's are known inverted like yours. Done by applicator indifference, locally, this is not a "Bureau" issue.
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gaff to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't it simply an upside down precancel? I'm confused...
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Edited by Gaff - 09/06/2010 5:37 pm
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
and there, my friends in your answer... warrehouse the mighty :)
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Posted 09/06/2010   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

"About half of all these on the 3c Washington's are known inverted like yours."

If you have a link where I can see something like that I will be happy Warrehouse.

Thank you!
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Posted 09/06/2010   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gaff to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Re: inverted:

"Inverted imprints, or "inverts," most often occur when a handstamp is unknowingly picked up wrong-way-to by a postal clerk, or when a printer sets up his press to center the imprint on sheets of stamps with selvage on one side and finds some sheets with it on the other. As you would expect, inverts are usually less plentiful than normals. Most imprints reading up or down do so because the device was made to fit the vertical heights, rather than the width, of the stamps. Diagonal imprints other than provisionals, arise either through carelessness or because a sheet of stamps curled or slipped in a printing press."
-from: http://www.precancels.com/beginner/abcsof.htm


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I don't understand how it is possible to have a stamp with a precancel like that... normal invert is possible but a look like that is for me an interrogation.


Are you unclear about the cancel being upside down or the over-inking?
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Posted 09/06/2010   6:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cdnum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Gaff,

"over-inking"...

Thank you!
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Posted 09/06/2010   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Isn't it simply an upside down precancel?


I agree that the precancel is inverted but am not convinced there was an overinking issue -- from the enlarged image, it appears that the precancel was printed over some other marking that had been made with a darker shade of ink.


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Posted 09/07/2010   05:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was double struck--if struck is the right term. And as everyone has said upside down.
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