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Posted 09/23/2010   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mark296 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Are these postage due stamps? What is "Future Delivery", 1 year or maybe more?





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Posted 09/23/2010   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are Revenue stamps. In the case of the one without the overprint they are listed is Scott Specialized Catalog under "Revenue Stamps" starting with the "R" prefix.

"Future Delivery" was an overprint on the aforementioned stamps, listed in Scott Specialized Catalog as "Future Delivery Stamps" with this explanation:

"Issued to facilitate the collection of a tax upon each sale, agreement of sale or agreement to sell any products or merchandise at any exchange or board of trade, or other similar place for future delivery."

Dates from 1918 to 1934.
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Edited by wt1 - 09/23/2010 9:38 pm
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Posted 09/23/2010   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark296 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I guess stampmanage doesn't have this stamp in it.
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Posted 09/24/2010   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how I missed this post.
Future Delivery Stamps were most often used in "Options Trading". To put it in simpler terms than Scott's uses. This was a tax that was collected when a Stock, Stock Option, Bond etc. was to be delivered at a later date as per an agreement.

If I have some time tomorrow I'll post a pic of the whole series with the exception of 2 that I am missing(Perf. Variety). They go for several $1000's ea.

The 2nd is a standard Documentary tax issue. Their are 2 types of these this is a "Dot in Period" type. Note the 'dot in the period on either side of "cents". Some are quite difficult to find both ways!
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Edited by revstampman - 09/24/2010 11:54 pm
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Posted 09/25/2010   12:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. about the "dot in period" type of these stamps. It had me go back to my stockbook of these issues where I just found 3 or 4 of the 1 cent varieties with the "dot in period". I never realized there was a difference. Learn something new everyday on SCF.

It is interesting though that while Scott Specialized references the two types, there doesn't seem to be any specific Scott # or suffix to the catalog number to differentiate the two varieties. Is this to assume there is no difference in value between the two?
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Posted 09/25/2010   12:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark296 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is interesting. I would like to see the whole series. We know from the cancel that the "dot in period" stamp is from 1920. It would be hard to tell if the "Future Delivery" stamp is also a "dot in period" stamp. Stamps have a ton of history.
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Posted 09/25/2010   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thank you, I guess stampmanage doesn't have this stamp in it.


ezstamps does
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Posted 09/25/2010   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark296 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could get ezstamps to work on my computer but it just will not load. Don't know if it is Windows 7, or a 64bit problem.
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Posted 09/25/2010   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has always been my understanding that the "Dot in Period" type was not a seperate issue, and they were issude at the same time. To my knowledge no through attempt has ever been made to find which denominations have it.
I would be interested in knowing what are the values that you have with it?
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Posted 09/25/2010   10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mark296 documented the .04 variety. I checked my modest collection and find the "dot in period" only on the .01 variety. Interestingly, I did find a "dot in period" on a .01 with the Future Delivery overprint. (It was just by happenstance that the overprint was a little off-center, otherwise it would have been almost impossible to tell whether or not there is a "dot in period" as they are usually obliterated by the overprint.
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Posted 09/25/2010   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark296 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1, do they have scott numbers?
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Posted 09/25/2010   11:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are two varieties: For brevity, I'll just focus on the .01 and .04 denominations. The Scott #R228 and #R231 is the .01 and .04 1917 printings in which the stamp color is defined as "carmine rose". There is a later re-issue of 1940 with Scott #R264 and #R267 where the stamp color is defined as "rose pink".

As for the "Future Delivery" overprint, that's based on the earlier 1917 issue and in your .20 denomination, with horizontal lettering in the overprint, it would be a Type 1 identified as Scott #RC5. There are some other known varieties, including vertical lettering in the overprint, different typeface, etc., but that would not apply to the scan you provided.
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Posted 09/25/2010   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark296 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I now have them cataloged.
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Posted 09/25/2010   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Philatelists can not live by color alone!

This stamp was issued for a number of years. So, color is not always true.
In order to correctly ID them you need to check the perf. measurements.
They would be 11, 10, or compound 11 x 10.

I have seen(or have) the .01, .02, .04, .20, .50 with the "dot". I also have a .80 with the dot only on the right. But I still have about 1500 to still check.
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Posted 09/25/2010   10:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revstampman:

Check this out. I think it may be the .80 variety with dot on both sides (very faint, though.) What do you think? At least it has a nicely dated cancel.

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Posted 09/25/2010   10:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It most certainly is.
With the exception of 1 pulled perf. a very nice copy.
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