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Britain ? Another Couple.

 
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Posted 01/19/2011   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bfranton to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Still waiting on delivery of my SG so if anyone would like to volunteer a little info about these I'd appreciate it.
Ones over the other,










Thanks.
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Posted 01/19/2011   1:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Barb

The top two are SG48 or 49....they look like 48 to me. The top one of the two is from Plate 15 [It looks like 15], the bottom one I cannot see the plate number because of the cancellation.
They will be of minimal cat. value because of condition.

The next one looks like SG8. red-brown on blued paper. Again the condition [bottom sawn off] makes it a low value item. This issue was printed from the 1d Black plates but I cannot tell which one.

Your 1s green is SG19. High catalogue value but the stamp has some nibbled perfs, is not clean and the cancel has 'run' onto the stamp.
It also has poor centring.

The last one is SG103. Plate 5. But again, the stamp has a number of faults but a nice cancel !

Sorry I couldn't be more jolly.

Londonbus1
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Posted 01/19/2011   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even if stamps aren't perfect you can still have fun looking for postmarks.

The 265 postmark on the 1d red on blued paper is from Scotland and according to the list I have it's from Newburgh. I'd guess this is the one in Fife but there are others.

The 620 postmark on the 3d rose is an English one from Plymouth.
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Posted 01/19/2011   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. No one said I was getting rich quickly. :) But maybe I'll get better a what to look for. Maybe you'll like this better?


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Posted 01/19/2011   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The "EC53" is a singleton Newspaper strike.

That stamp would adorn a piece of brown paper
wrapped around a Victorian Newspaper and possibly
delivered to a wealthy gentleman, or a gentlemen's club
somewhere in East Central Londinium.


Based on your family's material,
I'd suggest your maltese Cross is from Scotland.



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Posted 01/20/2011   01:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Rod, Unless it's the perfin I don't know which one is an EC53 as I still have no SG. Maybe this weekend since it was just coming from AZ.
I'm unaware of any direct connection to Scottish
family ties. Something to pursue. The only roots I know are mostly British and French ...
I do like the stamp and the Maltese cancel. Thanks for showing the full print.
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Posted 01/20/2011   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Please forgive for not explaining fully.
the EC53 is this stamp
Which stand for East Central London, location 53



It is a singleton strike, the halfpenny being the newspaper rate
like this
which is EC46 nearby




You seem to have a bit of Scottish material (in pmks)
I though maybe grandad had relations there.

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Posted 01/20/2011   03:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 6d stamp postmarked Wellington is from Somerset and the perforated initials (perfin) show the stamp was used by the Wellington firm of Egerton Burnette Ltd,
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Posted 01/20/2011   04:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a lovely MX on your penny red.
This should assist in plating it. Shame about the clipped top and left margin as it is otherwise very nice.
There is some great info on the early 1d and 2d here - http://www.kernunnos.com/Philately/GBQVLE.html

Regarding the 1s green. Have you read about the famous forgery of this stamp?

http://www.philatelicsannex.org/ref...xforgery.pdf
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Posted 01/20/2011   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bfranton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anthony, Would you suggest then, I would need to have it verified? We've aready discussed why it isn't Mint.
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I believe the 1sh green forgery is only for the stamps with position letters in all four corners; I don't think it applies to the 1sh green stamp you have.
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Posted 01/20/2011   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
G.B. 'Stock Exchange' Forgery

Great Britain's 1/- green stamps, from plates
5 and 6, successfully forged and issued
1870-3 by a telegraph clerk employed at the
London Stock Exchange Post Office.

First noted by Charles Nissen, London stamp
dealer and expert, in 1898, and later confirmed
by a purchase made from a waste-paper dealer
by Lewis May another well-known London dealer,
in May 1910. the forger was never brought to
justice; he had retired many years before, and
proof of the suspect's guilt was almost
impossible to obtain. All are postmarked
'Stock Exchange, E. C.' and dated 1872-3.

- R. J. Sutton 6th edition revised by K. W. Anthony
The Stamp Collector's Encyclopaedia
Published 1966
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