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Posted 09/29/2011   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mrmagic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i recently bought these stamps.
the overprint says wodows and orphans week and I believe they are from 1918.




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Posted 09/29/2011   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wadmalatz, you have a great bunch of stamps to sort for postmarks!

As for the Scott listing, it is very poor. They do not list the perforation varieties for individual stamps, they just group a bunch of numbers at the top. Absolutely useless.

Here is a "clipping":

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Posted 10/21/2011   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a couple Lombardy-Venetias:

The first, 3 soldi, is pretty clear,



but this 15 soldi gave me fits:



I was seeing too many strokes and lines until I accounted for the double strike.
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Posted 10/22/2011   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two examples of Offices in the Turkish Empire
Beirut:




and Jerusalem:
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Posted 10/23/2011   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice display guys!

This little thimble cancel as Ala, now in Italy (near Trentino)



Jan 27, 1877
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Posted 10/24/2011   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bee See!
Here`s an Austrian Katalog listing (1998, price in Austrian Schilling), perf. 10 basic CV., second picture lists varieties.





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Posted 10/24/2011   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I have tons - well, quite a few - of these stamps and I've noticed that the perfs vary considerably, I really appreciate this information, Wadmalatz. However, I'm not sure how I'd interpret 'regular 9 1/2' and 'irregular 9 1/2.' What do you look for to establish how ir/regular the perfs are?
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Posted 10/24/2011   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Wadmalatz! Now we need a listing for the Franz Josef perfs
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Posted 10/24/2011   11:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Szegedin, now called Szeged, in south Hungary, the third largest city.


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Posted 10/25/2011   03:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A very clean, readable cancellation Bee See (I really-really like it. In `Gudlin` only 10 points on this stamp, meaning this is frequent. Gudlin is generally interpreted this way: 1 point=0,10-0,20 Eur+stamp value).By the way, jimjamtwo you`ll see a small irregularity here. This stamp is a also a Bz.=Bogenzahnung- sheet perforation, the needles of the perforation machine are making up a frame, the hole sheet is perforated in one phase. Usually 4-5 sheets were put in the machine and usually the sheet under is left with remnants bw. teeth (on the left side). But I don`t exactly know what kind of irregularities should we look at in the case of the 1883 issue and I was looking in vain for a picture of a stamp nr. 44-48 C (C in ANK=irregular 9 1/2 perforation). Sometimes the needles are `dancing` (don`t stand fast). Here`s a picture (b&w):



you see that the holes aren`t aligned, and the distance bw. holes it`s not always the same. In worst cases the sheet (or line, column) was reperforated and sometimes not with the same needles, resulting in mixed perforation... but these are only guesses. And I don`t think that here it`s the case of the corners, as it`s a Bz. (Bogenzahnung). When the sheet is perforated in lines (rows then columns) the corners are irregular, resulting different shapes. I guess (and please correct me, if I misundertood something) when the sheet is perforated with a frame, the corners are regular, all the same....
Franz Joseph 1874 issue guess? (those for example were perforated in line&column=Lz=Linienzahnung, that`s why there are mixed perforations 10 1/2:9 or 9:10 1/2)
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Posted 10/25/2011   04:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still looking for watermarks and finding more and more, but put aside a few so called Fingerhut Stempeln (`thimble` cancellation? is this used that way in English?)
First Tlumacz (now Tlumach - Ukraine), a city with a sad story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlumach



Chropin (this is the smallest), now Chropyne- Czech Republic



Oberrochlitz (guess now it`s somewhere in the Czech Republic)



and finally Grein (just a guess), 13/10 88 8-9 Frûh (early)


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Posted 10/25/2011   05:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing these. Yes, we call them "thimbles" too.

I believe your Oberrochlitz postmark is from Rochlitz an der Iser, now Rokytnice nad Jizerou, a ski report in the Czech Republic.

I've seen references to both Ober-Rochlitz and Nieder Rochlitz associated with this place.

I agree that the last one looks like Grein in Upper Austria.

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Posted 10/25/2011   05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


1874/84 issue (better impression), basic CV is for line perforation 9 1/2 (Lz.-Linienzahnung), the 50 kr is perfed 12 or 13, here is the rest of perforations (all Lz.)
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Posted 10/25/2011   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Seahorse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a useful list of all Austrian postmarks in the Ottoman Empire:

http://stamps.endfield.org.uk/ahpos.htm
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Posted 10/25/2011   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another thimble I got:



Brixen, Tyrol, now in Italy
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