| Author |
Replies: 22 / Views: 3,626 |
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
(1) This is the reverse of two 15c Peace and Commerce issues. Is this grilled gum? I've heard about this in the cases of Switzerland and the US, but have never actually seen examples before myself.  More faintly, this seems to be grilled gum on the reverse of another 15c:  It seems to be less clear because it's a different kind of paper. (2) The cancel reads Marseilles Etranger. What kind of cancel was this?  (3) This cancel seems to say 'Journaux' at the top. A newspaper stamp, not a place name, surely?  (4) Can anyone read the word at the top of the cancel on this pair? Is it a place name or something else? 
|
|
Send note to Staff
|
| Edited by jimjamtwo - 03/01/2011 8:18 pm |
|
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
I should add that I've done some research and I can't find any information (in English) that indicates that grilled gum was used on French stamps.
|
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Canada
2574 Posts |
|
|
About #4 the word is "chargement" wich mean load. Cannot read the bottom word sorry. |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2779 Posts |
|
|
The 15c. stamps with the criss-cross pattern is a paper variety called Quadrille Paper on the 1892 issue, Scott 103. Will |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Rest in Peace
Canada
6750 Posts |
|
|
Etranger Google translates as abroad so maybe this was a cancel for international mail or overseas. Somewhat like the Great Britain F.S. Foreign Section cancels. Not sure, just supposing.
Nice and cool paper examples. |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
Thanks for the info, Battlestamps. Is there a higher CV for stamps on quadrille paper?
Puzzler, I don't know French, but I thought abroad was 'outre-mer.' Thus my confusion. |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts |
|
|
The quadrille paper is quite common, 15c was the French letter rate from 1878 - 1906
This quadrille paper is also used with the stamps of Obock and Somali Coast. |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2779 Posts |
|
|
I checked the Yvert et Tellier catalogue and quadrille paper versions are not really any higher than minimum. Will |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts |
|
|
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts |
|
|
The Journaux cancel is "cool" according to my colleague Mr. Tracy Barber from 2005  |
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
Thanks for the information, everyone. French stamps are very much a great unknown to me but I've already noticed as go through these defins that there's a good variety of shades and cancels that makes it a potentially very interesting field.
Re the quadrille paper: I've got about 60 of these 15c stamps and but only 3 on the quadrille paper, so, even if it's not uncommon, I'm still surprised that there's no difference in CV.
Last, what does grilled gum look like? I still haven't seen any! |
Send note to Staff
|
| Edited by jimjamtwo - 03/02/2011 02:46 am |
|
|
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts |
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
rod222, regarding the Somali stamp, why can we see quadrille lines outside the area of the stamp (defined, presumably, by the perfs)? |
Send note to Staff
|
| Edited by jimjamtwo - 03/02/2011 08:00 am |
|
|
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts |
|
|
The quadrille paper JJ is the entire sheet of paper the stamps were printed on, same as the "Sage" type you offered The Quadrille can be imagined perhaps as a whole sheet of watermarked lines. That was <their> forgery protection device. Hope I am clear, post back if not.
Note the perforations were drawn, similar to the uglies of Mr. Tony Mac who recently posted, the princely state escapes me.
|
Send note to Staff
|
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
2156 Posts |
|
|
I didn't think the perfs looked real.
It must be a very odd looking stamp! |
Send note to Staff
|
|
Replies: 22 / Views: 3,626 |
|