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Help With I.d. "1850-1950" Street Scene

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Posted 03/10/2011   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I tried to help i.d. this stamp once before, without success. Now it is mine, and I still can't sort it out.



It looks vaguely Austrian, or maybe Belgian. The years would correspond to Austria's first 100 years of stamps.

Any ideas?

Thanks for looking.
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Posted 03/10/2011   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I'd go Belgian.

An "M Poortman" engraved this Belgian banknote





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Posted 03/10/2011   01:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spinning off on a tangent...
Article may be interesting for you on the
engraver Maurice Poortman.

A stamp attributed to him after he had retired ?

http://www.philatelicdatabase.com/b...ckney-press/

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Posted 03/10/2011   06:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's the engraver taken to a dead end.
How about the building?
can we assume....

1.It most probably will be a GPO
2. if so it probably appears on a genuine stamp somewhere,
the facade is quite striking.
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Posted 03/10/2011   06:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brussels PO? This image is on someone's travel bolg of Brussels. Its from a different angle, but seems to be the same building.
Its not the same, but similar.

http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blo...name=6_1.jpg
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Posted 03/10/2011   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The building could be a GPO. I've also thought about a museum, an opera house, a state printing works. So far, no matches. I've generally been including "1850" in my search strings...perhaps I need to back away from that.

Thanks for thinking about it.
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Posted 03/10/2011   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Try the Netherlands, Cjd. that's what I got for M Poortman. ??
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Posted 03/10/2011   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the label celebrates the first 100 years of the Bank of Belgium and shows the Head office in Brussels, built in the 1860's.

Having engraved Belgian Banknotes and Stamps, it was probably fitting that he should design a Commemorative label to give to the Banks Customers !

Looking for a better pic than the one I have.

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Posted 03/10/2011   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yes. The former Bank Building is today the Museum of the Bank of Belgium. It is on the Rue du Bois Sauvage.

http://www.nbbmuseum.be/premises
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Posted 03/10/2011   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, that looks right. Here is an old engraving...



It is interesting to me that this stamp/cinderella/label "looked" Belgian or Austrian...wonder why that is?

Thanks much, 'bus!

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Posted 03/10/2011   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's that banana again !

Here is the building today.





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Posted 03/10/2011   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Well done to the bankbus,
I was with stampgal, the gpo is very similar,
I was thinking perhaps a renovation in 1950

Bravo to Belgium for maintaining such a beautiful building.

Similarity to the GPO
(I could not get stampgals link )


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Posted 03/10/2011   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


I was wondering if we could have taken a clue from the
two sculptures? One is of commerce I believe
which would have dismissed the gpo option.
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Posted 03/10/2011   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the engraving and the Bank depicted on the label are from around the same time, the Residence [Hotel] is to the left of the columns [First ones] and the later extension is further left and can be seen on the modern day pics.
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Posted 03/10/2011   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Your label's sibling,
a genuine Belgium stamp celebrating the centenary of the bank,
with an allegory of savings, the beehive
and the horn of plenty.

1950



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Posted 03/10/2011   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice touch.
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