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Posted 06/27/2011   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to an excellent Italian stamps site (see below) they believe that the all yellow variety exists but just one sheet exists:

http://www.ibolli.it/php/varieta.ph...a&fr_id=2510

This is the image on that site:

[url=http://www.thegomc.com/PicHosting/share-942C_4E09115A.html"]
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Posted 06/27/2011   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They show a great FDC too, with the normal stamp.

:)
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Edited by Perf14 - 06/27/2011 7:31 pm
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Posted 06/27/2011   7:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
agustanz, I admire your passion in persuing this stamp.

You are a true collector.
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New Zealand
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Posted 06/27/2011   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add agustanz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a replica of the 1950's card/poster or both that the stamp is based on.

Regards
Gavin



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Posted 06/27/2011   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add agustanz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Australia
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Posted 06/27/2011   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry,
the blue has turned to green
I smell chicanery.
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Canada
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Posted 06/28/2011   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The questions are, how many sheets of 50 in an uncut pane, and how many panes are printed from a roll of yellow paper. One sheet alone cannot exist, unless the Italian post office said they were printed, but destroyed, and one may have escaped.

I smell what the Rodster smells...
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Posted 06/29/2011   06:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
they were printed, but destroyed, and one may have escaped.


That seems quite likely to me...isn't that what usually happens with this type of huge error? A couple or one sheet escapes/is liberated and the rest are destroyed?

It is also possible that one sheet of yellow paper was introduced on purpose or that the yellow ink accidentally smeared all over the sheet instead of being confined in the centre through some maladjustment of/by the printer.

Chances are that there was wrongdoing somewhere...but does it matter? Did it matter to the owners of the inverted Jenny or the smoking Audrie? not in the least.

Some Sperati forgeries sell for more that the originals...

:)
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Edited by Perf14 - 06/29/2011 06:44 am
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Posted 06/29/2011   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Augustanz
Interesting thread. Good advices from the members. I don't think it's true printing error. Be careful with dealer advice. Philately is a universe in itself and often dealer have specialized in some countries not all. But some are willing to sell anything for good return even stamps that has been dip in a yellow chemicals. If you want to buy expensive stamps with errors you better start to make contact with stampclub in Italy and use specialized catalogue or if you have the chance to meet one at a stampshow, talk to an Italy expert which may be hard to find in New Zealand.
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Edited by timbres667 - 06/29/2011 11:50 am
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Posted 07/01/2011   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matttodd1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might ask the dealer to allow you an extended return policy so that you could send the stamp for certification to verify that it is genuine and sound. You could send it to the Philatelic Foundation in New York or another certification authority. That would cost an extra $30-$50, but would give much better peace of mind.

Matt
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Posted 07/01/2011   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matttodd1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might ask the dealer to allow you an extended return policy so that you could send the stamp for certification to verify that it is genuine and sound. You could send it to the Philatelic Foundation in New York or another certification authority. That would cost an extra $30-$50, but would give much better peace of mind.

Matt
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Posted 07/18/2011   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Albert C to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You should consider to buy a real Vespa ! : )

Just kidding, you must be very careful on buying this stamp.Better to buy with a good certificate.

Regards
Albert
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Posted 01/04/2012   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add agustanz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well guys and girls! I have a little story to tell...

The dealer in Italy who found my Vespa yellow colour error stamp via another dealer didn't pan out as he wanted 500 Euro and I just could not raise the money at the time.

BUT I have been watching ebay and Decampe listings almost daily and got the shock of my life 8 days ago when the one I looked at on ebay 6 or so months ago reappeared! 340 Euro start bid, no reserve.
I spent an agonising week watching the auction to see if anyone else bid and looking at how many page counts the auction got...

Then I woke up early to bid... only TO MY HORROR I was blocked from bidding as the seller didn't tick the "Oceania" box on the areas he would send too. And guess where New Zealand is!!
So all I could do way watch as it passed in seconds later...
Defeat! Oh the humanity! Oh the swearing!!

Then in total disbelief I send an message to the seller explaining that I would like to buy it and he needed to tick "Oceania". He replied later at 11.30 that night NZ time and he listed it again for one day but didn't change the setting.... so I asked could he do a buy now and he said he would. He started a third version and thought he had opened it up to "world wide"..... so I tried to do the buy now and was defeated again.
Now it's 3am and I have to be up at 8...

So I ask again if we can deal direct as ebay seems to not be letting us do what we want. He withdraws the "buy now" auction and contacts me personally off ebay.

He agrees to sell it to me off ebay.
I agree and finally get to bed at 4am!

SUCCESS AT LAST!!
What a &^#$ mission it turned out to be...

So I have paypaled him the money today.

I am very exciting to have THE Holy Grail stamp and the new top dog of my collection.

Attached is the Certificate for the stamp. So it all looks good and genuine.



I am a very happy collector now!
Just have the wait now for the registered letter to arrive from Italy in a week or so! :)

Regards
Gavin
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Australia
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Posted 01/04/2012   07:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add huckles888 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mission achieved!!! - way to go augustanz - I have a mission of my own trying to tracking down a MNH copy of a stamp that I have only seen for sale as a CTO
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Posted 01/04/2012   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good for you Gavin that you refused to give up ! It always amazes me what turns up in this philatelic world of ours...i wanted some sheets from a Buenos Aires philatelic exhibition in 1980 to complement my collection...Scott has a notation (value 125.00) I saw them in a large lot of Argentine stamps on the internet and I bid 89.00 because I wanted the sheets...luckily I was outbid...over the New Years weekend I won a set of them for 24.50 ! The sheets themselves are not shown in my album..only the stamps...but I wanted something to make my collection STAND OUT and I think they will fill the bill !!
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