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Posted 04/11/2017   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And here are some of my imperforates.

I know the two on the right are plate 1 Late, but am unsure about those on the left. Note that the spacing between the stamp and the imprint differs. Note that none are as close as seen on plate number 4.

Can anyone please identify these?


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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 04/11/2017 10:34 pm
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Posted 04/11/2017   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely IIIA. I can't take my eye off the blob in the selvage, what is it?
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Posted 04/11/2017   10:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that is a gum stain.

The stamp and selvage are OG. I do not know any way of removing it without disturbing the gum, and am NOT going to trim it.

According to the PF cert, "It is genuine previously hinged with some stain spots."
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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 04/11/2017 10:45 pm
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Posted 04/11/2017   10:44 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Douglas, The top one is 41L1L and the bottom one is 51L2. A #9 and #7 respectively.
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Posted 04/11/2017   10:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks!

Here is a newer scan showing two more recent additions.

The one at bottom right has a cert as a scott 7 60R2.

Note how much closer the imprint is to the stamp.

What is the 40R stamp at the upper right?


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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 04/11/2017 10:58 pm
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Posted 04/12/2017   07:17 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp on third row extreme right is 60R4. Single stamp at top is 40R2.
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Posted 04/12/2017   07:24 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 60R4 is a actually a Type IIIa and is probably a genuine imperf but I am not sure from the scan. It is difficult to imagine under what circumstance anybody would be motivated to trim the perfs off a perforated example of this stamp.
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Posted 04/12/2017   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Douglas, welcome. You have some nice stamps.

I bought that 41L4 showing the "N" from "No 4" from a dealer named John Salomon, in the late 1980s, or possibly as late as 1990. It may have been me that sent it in for that PFC, I can't remember. In spite of the gum stain on that stamp, I always considered that to be a terrific item. Any stamp from plate 1L, 2, 3 or 4 that shows any part of "No [plate number]" is a very scarce, if not rare item.

When I bought it, I asked John where he got it, and all he would tell me is that it came from New Orleans. So, I don't know if he meant that he got it from the Weill brothers, or someone else. I held it for many many years, but I never could figure out where it came from. I'm happy it has a new good home.
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Posted 04/12/2017   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The stamp on third row extreme right is 60R4."

Not according to PF:



But this image from Siegel shows otherwise.



The Plate 2 righthand imprint is further away than that on Plate 2; I believe you guys have it correct and PF is wrong.
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Posted 04/12/2017   7:04 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Once I saw the cert for the Plate 4 stamp and who submitted it, the margins made all kinds of sense to me. So it took me all of about two minutes to fill in the gaps. See PF cert #494466.

Regarding the mistake on the cert. Does anybody that reads a lot of my posts think I am surprised?
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Posted 04/12/2017   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Winston

I just looked up that PF cert. that is sad. Amazing you knew about that cut up job!!

Douglas,

I enjoyed looking at these. Thanks for posting

Rg
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Posted 04/12/2017   9:04 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't know. The clues read like a book.
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Posted 04/12/2017   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tip.

Apparently it's chop at its bottom was to create a jumbo lower stamp which presumably sold for way more than the $50 or so I paid for this upper stamp.

I did some more research and found this- PF cert 491752

It is the same position 60R4 yet they cert it as an 8A

Here is a closer scan of the 60R4 that had been the top stamp of that pair. Now I know a bit of its history.

Nice to know now that I own examples of both the middle right hand imprint positions of the 1 cent plate #4.


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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 04/12/2017 10:17 pm
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Posted 04/12/2017   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I bought that 41L4 showing the "N" from "No 4" from a dealer named John Salomon, in the late 1980s, or possibly as late as 1990. It may have been me that sent it in for that PFC, I can't remember. In spite of the gum stain on that stamp, I always considered that to be a terrific item. Any stamp from plate 1L, 2, 3 or 4 that shows any part of "No [plate number]" is a very scarce, if not rare item.

When I bought it, I asked John where he got it, and all he would tell me is that it came from New Orleans. So, I don't know if he meant that he got it from the Weill brothers, or someone else. I held it for many many years, but I never could figure out where it came from. I'm happy it has a new good home."

Many thanks!


This is a GREAT board. Am learning the history of a few of my stamps.

The cert reads Unused OG Left margin single with part imprint pos. 41L4. It is genuine previously hinged with some stain spots.

Dated 10/26/90

PF # 0232448

I also have one on cover, alas with the selvage quite trimmed, but the imprint (which is not a capture) visible.



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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 04/12/2017 10:32 pm
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Posted 04/12/2017   11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my 41L4 alongside my Scott 24 plate number related selvage items, plate 7,8, and9:

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