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Posted 08/06/2011   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add fincbob2451 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, Here are a few new BOBs I picked Up.The first one is some type of police document stamp.I can't make out a date on it. the one next to it is an 1890-91 official stamp.Next to that is an 1878 official stamp and the is dated 1900 but I have no idea what it is. it does have a serial number on the back. Any information you may have on these will be ,ost appreciated. The second group has a Jordon Sc# J35 postage due, a Jordon Sc# J34 postage due, a South Africa Sc# J43 postage due and a Spanish label.The label is a Sociedad Del Timbre with the name of a city at the bottom. I have three or four of these with different cities. I have seen them on the web but there is never really an explanation of just what they were for. the last on is the reverse side od the 1900 fiscal stamp showing the serial number. Many thanks for any information antone may be able to provide. I don't generally collect many BOBs but have come across a number of them lately.
Thanks
David



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Posted 08/06/2011   05:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice little lot David.

I think you will find your Jordan #J34 is actually from the earlier 1929-39 Postage Due set.

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Posted 08/06/2011   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Sociedad del Timbre appeared deep in the Worldwide Revenue Scans thread (page 17), where I'd posted this...


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It is hard to get a firm handle on the purpose of these. A proof sheet was included in an American Bank Note archive auction in 2008, but the listing said it was either an ABN or NBN product. Many other references claim ABN as the source.

Google Translate gives me this result from one Spanish source:

"Tax stamps for Stamp Company were issued in 1876 with the names of all the Spanish provinces. La efigie del centro representa al Reino de España. The effigy of the center represents the Kingdom of Spain. Como puede observarse carece de valor facial, ya que su función era estar adherido en la cabecera de los nuevos pliegos y servir de comprobante de que los sellos de correos y las pólizas suministrados a los estancos por la Sociedad del Timbre eran auténticos. As can be seen no face value, because its function was to be joined at the head of the new specifications and serve as proof of postage stamps and the policies delivered to the silos by the Society of the Ring were genuine. Se imprimieron en Estados Unidos por la imprenta estatal American Bank Note Company. Were printed in the United States by the state printing American Bank Note Company."


Which I read to say that the stamp functioned almost like an official stamp, verifying that the information on which it appeared could be relied upon. Perhaps a reader of Spanish can do better than Google's automated translation?

Here is the link to the auction item from 2008:
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5237381


If anyone has better information, I'd love to hear it. I don't really have designs on getting them all, only picking them up when I run across them, but I'm about a third of the way through so far.
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Posted 08/06/2011   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Londonbus1, Thanks for that. I bought it as a J34 and will make the correction.

cjd, That is very helpful information and I appreciate it.Like you I do't normaly collect revenues etc but when they come around I try to buy them. Thanks for the information,vert helpful.
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Posted 08/12/2011   4:33 pm  Show Profile Check Nells250's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like the one that says "LUGO"...
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Posted 07/31/2015   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found in a recently purchased large lot of WW stamps:

Scott Italy 333 1875 Official



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Posted 07/31/2015   5:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cjd, there is one authoritative guide to the Sociedad del Timbre but it is written in Spanish and I don't have a copy.

The stamps issued by the society were requested by the government to help fight against the rampant forgeries then occurring throughout Spain. I won't pretend to know how it all worked out, but these stamps are lovely and, short of robbery, could not be affixed to official documents as needed except by those in authority.

The collection of these stamps should not be attempted by a completionist as every province, and maybe every city, had their own stamps made for them. Some are very hard to find, apparently. Then, again, some people like searching for their Holy Grail.

The Society also developed and provided a standardized, dated (?) cancellation stamping device that was required in some places.

From what I can tell, the Society was a cooperative arrangement between businessmen and the government. It was short-lived but played an important role in Spain during its few years of activity. My Spanish history isn't very strong, but I think this all occurred at the time the monarchy was being reestablished in Spain.
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Posted 11/02/2015   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some 1920 postage due stamps from Liechtenstein to show:



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