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Penny Red - Can Anyone ID This Numeral Cancel?

 
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Posted 08/19/2011   11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This cancel is causing me some difficulty. It seems to be #187, but there were two post offices in England that were allocated that number, Consett and Staveley. I don't know if there's a way to tell the difference between the cancels used by the respective post offices and I can't find any examples of either online to use for a comparison.

In any case, this cancel has a diamond shape, which means it is almost certainly not English. The Irish numeral cancels were diamond-shaped, which could make it Dundalk. However, I have been able to locate several examples of the Dundalk cancel online, and the diamond shape is much wider than this one appears to be. This is, by comparison, rather longer from top to bottom than it is wide. Judging from the Irish numeral cancels I've been able to find online, no Irish cancel had this particular diamond shape. So does anyone know what it might be?



Thanks for looking!
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Posted 08/19/2011   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Used in Ireland.
The shape I have is 7 bars bottom, 6 at the top.
The question remains were the triangular designs
consistant?
Further to other info, I'd go with Dundalk.

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Edited by rod222 - 08/20/2011 12:02 am
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Posted 08/20/2011   03:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi rod222, I agree. After some Googling, I did find an Irish cancel with the same diamond shape. It must certainly be Dundalk, therefore.

In fact, this may even be the typical shape for an Irish numeral cancel. See the sample image for an Irish cancel (the fourth one) here:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refreshe...1230_big.jpg
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Edited by jimjamtwo - 08/20/2011 03:15 am
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Posted 08/20/2011   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



...and from the postal directory of 1852



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Posted 08/20/2011   06:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For further reading there are some useful documents on the Philatelicsannex site - http://www.philatelics.org/referenc...ference.html

Link updated
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Edited by AnthonyUK - 08/21/2011 02:56 am
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Posted 08/20/2011   11:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My browser could not locate that link, Anthony.
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Posted 08/21/2011   01:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mhc99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also couldn't get your link to work.
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Posted 08/21/2011   02:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry. I don't know what happened there. Perhaps it was the forum link shortening.
I have checked and it is now OK.
In case of further problems I have put it in non link format below.

"www.philatelics.org/reference/reference.html"
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