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Trans Atlantic Air Post Newfoundland 1919

 
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Posted 10/02/2011   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampgal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My local newspaper, The Oban Times, is celebrating 200 yrs of publication by printing excerpts from the last two centuries in each weekly edition. I found this, from 1919



Out of interest, does anyone have a copy of the stamp described to show here?
Thanks!
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Posted 10/02/2011   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is a nice pair offered on ebay with the variety
NEWFOUNDLAND 1919 $1 ON 15 c WITH & NO COMMA PAIR MINT

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Posted 10/02/2011   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampgal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! Thanks, Gilles le timbre
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Posted 10/02/2011   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice yarn, Stampgal
I like those stories.

Gilles! you didn't say how much ?

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Posted 10/02/2011   10:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cynical to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This makes for an interesting conundrum. The newspaper article is dated May, 1919. My information could be somewhat dated but the stamps shown are, I believe, from the June 9, 1919 Alcock and Brown flight issue (Newfoundland Scott#C2), which do indeed have the "one dollar" surcharge on them as the article states and the stamps show. Given that the newspaper article is headed May 19 would it not refer to the April 12, 1919 Hawker flight that was the 3 cent Caribou overprint(Newfoundland Scott#C1), an extremely valuable stamp by any measure. Then again the May 19 date may be there just to misdirect someone like me.
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Posted 10/02/2011   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it sells for 149Pounds on e-bay.
Reply to Cynical: You make an interestind point, but the C2 is the only one describing the surcharge correctly. (The C1 refers to
"April 1919" instead of "1 dollar")
For further information, I thought I'd propose the following store that describes the events leading to this 1 successful flight (and the preceeding failed one (the Hawker and Grieved that landed at sea and which was the originating flight for the Cariboo overprinted (C1)

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Av...ntic%202.htm
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Posted 06/09/2013   6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampgal,

Nice historical reference article. Thanks for the background.

I have several varieties besides the standard C2.

The images of my stamps are below, and its easy to get lost in the differences, so here are some comments.

The C2 has a normal sized comma after "POST" and a period or full stop after "1919".

The C2a is missing the comma but has the period.

The C2b is missing both.

The C2ii, has a little tiny comma.

There are other variants

Enjoy



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Posted 06/09/2013   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice display of the varieties. There are benefits to specializing.
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Posted 06/11/2013   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Cjd. And for the original post.

I've happy to provide scans of any varieties of Newfoundland to help anyone.

Picture is worth a 1000 words for sure
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Posted 06/11/2013   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tommy, your Newfoundland airmails are great! By the way, what album(s) do you store your Nfld stamps in?
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Posted 06/13/2013   11:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yakboomer,

thank you. I only collect newfoundland and so have sort of a bent, but deep, focus.

here is my album approach:

1. I only stick with Lighthouse products and they can be found on the web.
2. For my main album, I have the Springback-binder (DL Lexus) system.
3. Then I went with the Lighthouse pre-printed sheets for Newfoundland. They have synced with Scott, so a mount for every main number. I recommend the SF protective mounts, which come on white-manilla acid and wood free paper and each stamp has a clear non reflecting little pocket (front and back) that holds the stamp firmly but is easily seen.
4. I then ordered a bunch of non country specific pages called LB pages, and here you can get like 15 different flavors (from an entire sheet, to 3 rows to 8 rows etc. I have these in the back of my country sheets for my varieties. This is the one above on this thread that you see. They are great because you can easily see the front and back of the stamp with a flip without touching. I then write on the page itself the notations of each variety.
5. My covers rest in Lighthouse cover albums.
6. All my surplus stamps and used sit in standard Lighthouse stock albums

Too much information?
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Posted 06/14/2013   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tommy -
Quote:
Too much information?
not at all. I am looking around for an album for my fledgling Nwfd accumulation and find that it is not as easy as I thought it would be. Thanks!
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Posted 06/16/2013   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could someone teach me or explain how to put the Quote in the reply?
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Posted 06/16/2013   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tommy, the way I do it is
1) select and copy the text you want
2) click on reply to topic link at top of page
3) in the new reply area click on the second icon from the right, if you hover your mouse over it you will see "Insert Quote".
4) position your mouse between the resulting '[ quote][/quote ]'
5) shift-insert, or right click and paste and there it is.
6) be sure and preview first before posting.
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Posted 06/17/2013   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ryan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Could someone teach me or explain how to put the Quote in the reply?


There are a number of good FAQs available in the Stamp Community Support section of this forum, including one on how to quote. The FAQs are all set as "sticky" so they show up at the top of the listing.

https://goscf.com/f/13

Ryan
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Posted 06/17/2013   3:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the tip--I feel like such an Idiot.

Also, back on this thread topic: there is one of these for sale on this website by Eastern. And its the C2ii variant (with a tiny little comma). She is so cute and special....

Here is the blurb on it, in case one of you big Canadian collectors want to step up and open the wallet...lot #237 under Newfoundland

"Key mint positional stamp showing the small comma after "POST" (Position 20 in the setting of 25 stamps), nicely centered with large margins and full original gum, VF NH"

http://www.easternstamps.com/
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