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Old Buenos Aires Stamps... Genuine ?

 
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Posted 12/11/2011   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Badge56 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all. many years ago I found some old Argentina stamps that puzzled me. I have now identified them as Buenos Aires stamps. In Scotts catalogue they specify that counterfeits exist. How would you be able to tel the difference. They do not say. Any help is appreciated. Here are some pics.





Now this stamp is listed with a value of over $4000.00 (2009)
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Posted 12/11/2011   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Badge

I also have that set in my collection too and I can safely tell you that there is a 99 3/4% chance that they are reprints or fakes.

I have also seen other collections right here in town that had some as well.

Sorry for the bad news.

Chimo

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Posted 12/11/2011   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
more like 99.95 % chance- fakes abound
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Posted 12/11/2011   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a fake, also wrong color.

The originals were printed very tightly pack together. If you see good margins, then it is either a fake or a reprint. Be careful of reprints, because they were made from the original plates.
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Posted 12/11/2011   7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Using the SCF family "search" function
and Buenos Aires

https://goscf.com/t/5831

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Posted 12/12/2011   01:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep I have a few as well. I especially love my lime green one - she's purdy!

Fun stamps to keep around though!
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Posted 12/12/2011   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ryan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These fakes have strong barrel distortion - hold a ruler or other straight edge against the side borders of the image, and you'll see that the "straight" lines of the border are actually quite curved. This distortion is introduced during photography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_(optics)

Ryan
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Posted 02/01/2019   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found this useful article by an expert on the subject.

http://digital.ipcprintservices.com...r&ver=html5#{%22issue_id%22:182846,%22view%22:%22articleBrowser%22,%22article_id%22:%221556477%22}
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Posted 02/01/2019   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ajuchum to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My friend and I, when we were about 12, had some of these in our album. We thought we were rich!!.......but what if we were??
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Posted 02/02/2019   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EMaxim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have one, very similar. Read a long article describing the various counterfeits, still thought mine could be genuine. Paid for the APS expertising service. Got it back with one word: "counterfeit." Nothing to explain how to know, wch wd at least have been something useful for my money. That's a complaint I have against both APS and Scott catalogues. They don't tell how to spot the fakes, or better: how to recognize the genuine examples of this, or any, potentially valuable stamp.
Eric
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Posted 02/02/2019   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Noocassel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps APS and Scott think that if they tell people how to spot the fakes it will help people to make better fakes. Though of course if we don't recognise a fake the faker doesn't have to up their game.
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Posted 02/02/2019   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your missing a major point about these stamps and many other stamps .

The point your missing is that most of these stamp were not made by Forgers but were made by stamp dealers to be sold to youngsters in approval packs for 10 or 15 cents per set . I know because that is how I got my set . When your selling to beginners you don't have to be too accurate on the stamps details .
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