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Posted 03/10/2012   9:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert- The top german or austrian postal card is an embossed one. Not sure of date but nuremburg I believe was always under germany. Posted those and other on another thread for info and the stamped one is addressed from a high ranking nobel family although I am having trouble translating the history. Here is the family seal in the wax closure.
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Posted 03/10/2012   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nitrolures...That is a nice looking seal...The date...???
I wonder if there were only a few years that this type of seal(ing)on an envelope were used...I mean was this just a fad....??

Mine below was 1982...soooo, maybe your's was about that date...???


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Posted 03/10/2012   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not especially ancient



but extracting the dates from old Indian States covers, like this one from Jammu & Kashmir, can be good clean fun, and keeps one off the streets. This cover has been dated 1300 AH in Persian by the sender, in the lower left corner. This converts to about 1883 CE.
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Posted 03/10/2012   10:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tonymacg...Neat cover.

How in the heck did you translate that...???
Do you read Indian...???
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Posted 03/11/2012   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whizard to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My oldest cover 1835 St.Catherines

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Posted 03/11/2012   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First things first.........whizard

That is about as old as I have seen here....very nice cover.
Question...How did you find out it was 1835, I don't see anything on the cover...???

nitrolures...When you get bored of the cover with a seal on it, just mail it to me.....
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Posted 03/11/2012   1:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whizard to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Below the name on the top flap March4? /35
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Posted 03/11/2012   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome whizard!

I agree that the date in docketing noting the sender's name is March 4, 1835 -- that appears consisting with the manuscript date within the CDS.

I believe that the sender was Lieutenant Colonel John Clark, secretary of the Welland Canal Company and a member of the Lincoln militia.

Some biographical information is at http://dr.library.brocku.ca/bitstre...f?sequence=1

Steve
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Posted 03/11/2012   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Austria with the wax seal is from 1861 to possibly 1867 according to usage of that stamp. I've seen some interesting seals but the eagle with arrow and sceptre is either an official government seal or speific o that Noble family seal. Looks same as the center of most older russian stamps but that would be a double headed eagle. I will be selling the lot once I figure out what they all are seen here
https://goscf.com/t/23403
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Posted 03/11/2012   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whizard to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info tomiseksj.
My next oldest is 1856 from the same area.
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Canada
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Posted 03/11/2012   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whizard to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I bought that one and 7 other stampless covers for $10 (the dealer got tired of looking at them)
The next oldest is 1856.
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Posted 03/11/2012   2:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You got a great deal!
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Posted 03/11/2012   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's my oldest cover. I think most of you have me beat on the age, still I like this cover.





No year date on this, but has nice blue cancel (looks green because of the dark yellow envelope). Should have been used in the early 1850s.

On the subject of early covers, here's a neat usage just prior to the American Civil War:





Nice cover with clear 1861 year date.
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Posted 03/11/2012   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What's not to like about them Stampman2002...Great looking covers with nice cancellations....Very nice.
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Canada
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Posted 03/11/2012   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add whizard to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
St.Catherines-West
Front cancel Jan. 24/74 Back Jan. 26/73(note year error)


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