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Seeing Behind Heavy Cancellations....

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Posted 02/24/2012   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guy

If you have ever had a stamp with a heavy cancellation on it and ever wondered what was behind it...???

Here is a trick for those who are interested and for those who are not, I understand.

It is not the best for colour control, but it works...It is one I use and is FREE, and is available for Windows users also.

See picture below



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Posted 02/24/2012   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Wert, you have erased the mark but you have also erased what was behind, no?
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Posted 02/24/2012   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
koala...It is not perfect, but I removed the black and as you can see, probably 90% of what is behind is still in tact.

Like I said..Some will like it and others won't..Just an idea I use.

Here is the same affect on an American stamp..You tell me if it looks like a lot of detail is lost...???



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Posted 02/24/2012   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are not using a some kind of per-lin-pin-pin magical powder do you??
How do you do that??? Peroxide bath?
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Posted 02/24/2012   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, it's being changed through software.

It's actually a useful tool. More than once I've run into the problem of a cancel partially obscuring an important identifying feature for stamp/plate variety. The human eye tends to do "smoothing", so even partially obscured things can seem hopelessly lost. So removing as much of the black helps your eye/mind to focus (i.e., not get distracted or bleed the black cancel into something wider).

Likewise, by doing the opposite, sometimes you can spot a faded/removed cancel.
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Posted 02/25/2012   06:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance you can share what program you are using?
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Posted 02/25/2012   07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dianne Earl to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a very cool trick wert. I came across a stamp that I had a hard time Identifying because of the heavy cancellation.

Dianne
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Posted 02/25/2012   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Wert, how much for your secret??
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Posted 02/25/2012   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please explain - which program and how to. Consider a good % of us are windows users.
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Posted 02/25/2012   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi guys

I guess I have to give up my secrets (ha,ha)...The program is called "Shotwell Photo Manager"

I would right click on a picture (stamp) and say open with the above program...There is a menu called "Adjust"...Open that and have fun...Nice thing about Open Source software...It's FREE.

Another picture minipulation program I use that equals "PhotoShop" is a program called "GIMP"...Also FREE

HERE is the first screen...





HERE is the adjust menu



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Posted 02/25/2012   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And I thought you were going to make us answer this first, what is 9+7?

Thanks, Wert! I was aware of Gimp, but hadn't seen Shotwell before.

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Posted 02/25/2012   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
And I thought you were going to make us answer this first, what is 9+7?


He made me do it! Thanks Robert.
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Posted 02/25/2012   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
khj...I should have done it as a quiz (9+7)...ha,ha

Hope it helps (everyone).

I also use a program called "Shutter"...It is what I use to bring a picture down to below 100kb and it has other uses to...FREE,FREE,FREE (open source)..I believe it has a Windows version.


Sorry..Forgot to mention that "GIMP" also has a measuring part of it that is something like "BeeSee" uses with AutoCad...But maybe not as good...You be the judge.
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Edited by wert - 02/25/2012 5:04 pm
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Posted 02/25/2012   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just an update guys

Not only does it remove 95%+, but make the stamp look like it might have been when it was first printed..Look at this Unitrade # 15 stamp.

Just for your enjoyment.



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Posted 02/25/2012   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, this is one of the most interesting topic I have seen here...thanks
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Posted 02/25/2012   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Gilles le timbre

This could open up a better way to work with stamps that could not be worked with before...i.e. - Heavy cancellation, pen marks, etc.

Hope there are smarter people out there than me that could imagine even more uses for it.
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