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Mystic Has A Cheap Hingeless Album Now

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Posted 05/17/2013   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hungry for stamps That's what I figured. There was a difference between text and card stock. See the chart in the link above. It's very confusing unless someone deals with paper. The average person like me wouldn't know the difference. The only way I knew was by the cart and tjen by looking in my closet where I store my paper. Now Brightness I was a little better educated.
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Posted 05/17/2013   6:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was just thinking of something. If you wanted the heavier pages. Why couldn't you buy 1/2 Ream of the Heavier paper Scan the Mystic pages and print it out on the heavier paper. It would be a little work but you wouldn't have to do it all in one or two days. You could do it a few pages at a time. Even spread it out over six months if it took that long. I'm not sure how many pages are in the entire collection.
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Posted 05/17/2013   8:01 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well a light just went on for me- am I correct- card stock is different than just 'stock'? If so then perhaps what Mystic offers on their usual pages is indeed 70#. I still don't see how, but maybe it is.
I did think of scanning the pages onto heavier paper, I have some nice Springhill card stock, Ivory toned. It's be a lot of work and I'd probably need to take them to Kinko's as I don't think my scanner/copier would make the best copies. I could take 50 or so at a time as I work on them. I'd need to do them myself, as they are copyrighted and Kinko's might not feel they could do them. Decisions, decisions..
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Posted 05/17/2013   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
if you did go the scanner route you would want to do both sides so as to have the info on the stamps like Mystic has done. You could even go to the APS web site Library and copy (check Copy rights) their stamp description. It is a lot more detailed than Mystics. Or incorporate both into your own description. The possibilities are almost unlimited.
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Posted 05/18/2013   10:02 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I may just have the stamp sides copied and then the other side copied so I can place my collateral material pertaining to the stamps on a following blank page without having write up for other stamps facing it. (Probably that was confusing but maybe you get the idea). I will start on this next week and update on here how it went.
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Posted 05/18/2013   10:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No I got the idea but you are going to wind up with twice the number of pages. You only want the stamps on one side or they will catch on each other. That's why Mystic done their Album like that. Besides when your looking at the stamp you can see the description on the opposite page.
Chuck
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Posted 05/18/2013   10:39 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought of that, the stamps would go on just one side- the back of that page will have the descriptive write up for the following stamps.
I tried making some copies using the copy function on my scanner. I am not happy with the result, they look a little washed out and I cannot seem to get the right amount of darkening on the images, also there is a lighter 'halo' around the frame line on the copies. I think a print shop is the answer. I doubt there is any issue with copyright, etc so long as I use them for myself only.
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Posted 05/18/2013   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I ordered a couple packages of Blank Pages from Mystic for my Heirloom Album. I think they were about $4.95 for 25 pages. Sometimes I have stamps that aren't pictured in the Album so I have been mounting them on the Descriptive side but sometimes that doesn't work or look too good. My Three Volume American Heirloom Collection has now expanded to five volumes. With the blank pages my options now are unlimited.
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Posted 05/19/2013   2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TinMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps1962 That is exactly how the Mystic Album is laid out. I wish I had an old supplement. I would send you a copy so you could see. I think the Mystic is laid out perfect. When the album is open and you are looking at the stamps on the right page which actually is page two. The page on the left has the description of the stamps which is page one for the stamps on page two the right page.
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Posted 05/20/2013   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jljarmstrong to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good morning Stamps1962 - I checked on your question and Mystic does sell Hingeless album pages without mounts. They are sold only by request for $22.95 per volume. Because it's by special request, the order would need to be placed over the phone with Customer Service at 1-800-433-7811.

-Jessica
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Posted 05/20/2013   7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi HungaryForStamps,

Davo make and supply two album qualities. Standard albums, which are supplied with 100 gsm (30/35 lbs approx) paper weight which is very light, and Luxe albums which are supplied with 170 gsm (45/60 lbs approx paper weight depending on whose paper weight chart you use). You most likely have the luxe albums which are considerably better than the standard.

By way of illustration on the variation in respective papers and their weights, I have some 150 lb album pages which have a tooth to the surface and are stiffish in handling like cartridge paper, and these are noticeably heavier in feel and stiffer than the 170 lb Davo Luxe pages. It is very difficult judging a paper weight and substance by stated weight alone as there are many factors involved in determining the weight of a particular paper.

I stand by what I said; the only way to be sure of paper quality is to handle the stuff. If an outfit won't supply a paper sample of an expensive page set I can only assume the paper is of doubtful quality and go elsewhere for my goods.

Terry

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Posted 05/21/2013   03:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Balance;

Reference my last post, I thought it fair to add that in making a choice of paper for their stamp albums manufacturers have to make choices which balance durability against the number of leaves to be fitted in to an album. And then ensure that enough allowance is 'built in' to accommodate thickness added by the all important stamps. So a suitable paper might be seen to be a tough, thinnish stock with a good tear resistance and a semi smooth or hard smooth rub resistant surface. Such a paper would allow the maximum possible number of leaves whilst allowing for 'bulge'.

This compromise may not be to every collector's taste, but then that brings us into the area of printing up our own choice of paper stock. Which is sort of where I am. Printing title pages, page headings and stamp boxes, and then hand writing the attendant notes. And with fewer leaves per album than in a pre-printed job.

The main thing is that we can access enough good information to enable us to make the necessary choices in putting our collections together.

It should be fun, not a torment.

Terry

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Posted 05/21/2013   05:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jessica - I was just on your site looking at supplements and don't seem to see your separate "back of book" pages listed any more. At one point last year, there were 2 types listed. And now I'm seeing a listing for revenue stamp pages but when clicking on it, it gives the description of the Farley's follies pages. I'm confused.
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Posted 05/21/2013   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I been using an older heirloom album given to me by a friend and using the old Dennison hinges (until recently) now I use the (crappy by comparison) "supersafe" hinges and have noticed some wrinkling of the pages. I'm glad this thread has happened so I don't waste a lot of money on a crappy album. I was going to purchase one of the Mystic hingeless but now I am not for at least these 3 reasons: The paper weight too thin, the cut-off dates on the volumes I find hinky and different on several different sets I've seen (I only want one or two with classic material and not have to move them all the time!)
Recently I spilled a few droplets of coffee on one of the pages just before the columbians and the page wrinkled up like crazy! I tried to copy the page on my scanner on heavy stock but it don't look right and bothers the crap out of me! So that's my beef. I'm considering steiner pages or Harris pages but I am, as of yet, unsure?


By the way TinMan this is S.C.F. lol
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Posted 05/21/2013   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jljarmstrong to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike33 - Mystic offers two different sets of American Heirloom Back of the Book album pages - the SKUs for those items are GS797 and GS798.

We've also created separate pages for the Revenues, which are SKUs GS181 - GS185. The copy that appears on the website for GS181 is incorrect, but will fixed today. Thanks for the heads up.

-Jessica
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