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Victoria Australia 1901?

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Posted 07/21/2012   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Horamkhet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


Hi to all
This is the same stamp. It is completely offset on the reverse.
The paper is not thinned, it is the same thickness as the normal stamp.
I have been slowly going through the accumulation of Australian States that I purchase several months ago and was going to check them all for the watermarks when I came across this one.
Has any-one else seen this variety?
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Posted 07/22/2012   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like hot water to me,
Is there not two versions of this stamp?
SG 316 and SG417a
I do recall perhaps one variety can be viewed from the back
due to the paper? That's just memory ;)

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Posted 07/23/2012   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a couple of similar item that made their way into my binder somehow? (I don't collect Australia really.)

Victoria, Queensland & some Tasmania Australia


The swans (I like these)
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 07/23/2012 08:12 am
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Posted 07/23/2012   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or is this simply an aniline ink printing?
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Posted 07/23/2012   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's my guess, aniline soaked in hot water at some time or another.


I love Stamps......
that is an interesting pmk (killer) on the top row 4th along,
never seen one like that before.
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Posted 07/23/2012   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Same stamp as in the original post. That was the one I was talking about. So hot water makes the ink run on these? interesting.
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Posted 07/23/2012   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Same stamp as in the original post. That was the one I was talking about.


Yep, I understood that,
but being an Aussie, love to see the others,
'specially the swans.

Aniline ink has an atrocious record of "bleeding"
Malay States in particular, they even bled off the press.
Any aniline ink stamp I have goes nowhere near water.
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Posted 07/23/2012   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Sometimes, one can be plumb lucky,
I took a punt with that CDS killer, and thought
"maybe it's Ballarat".........

Bingo!
First time I have witnessed this one on a stamp, so thanks.



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Posted 09/04/2012   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Horamkhet to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi to all
Interesting to note that Ballarat is always wrongly spelt.
The correct spelling is Ballaarat and hence the pronuciation is different.
Not Bell a rat, but Ba laar rat
I have heaps of old books with the correct spelling, and to my knowledge the spelling was never changed
Horamakhet
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Posted 09/04/2012   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You'd think that they would get it right at least one time out of two...
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Posted 09/04/2012   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you'll find it has changed,
perhaps just by public usage, but certainly the single A dominates today.
It needs to be followed up by enquiry to the Haritage council perhaps.

The 3 uses .......

Roller Cancel on a Georgian sideface (inverted wmk)




Cinderella




Cinderella with one usage, stamps the other.....




Early Postcard with singleton A



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Edited by rod222 - 09/04/2012 11:50 pm
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Posted 09/05/2012   01:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And to the best of my knowledge, the trams are still running, too.
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Posted 09/05/2012   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And I just checked the Victorian Government Register of Geographical Names. "Ballarat" is 'registered'; "Ballaarat" is 'historical'. So it looks as if it's Ballarat for all modern and practical purposes.
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Posted 09/05/2012   01:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Train stops there Adelaide <> Sydney,
goodness me, Ballarat is a very cold place,
(my toes are nodding in agreement)

I feel for the Tram Conductors.....
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Posted 09/05/2012   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Am I wrong in thinking that stamps printed with aniline inks suffuse through the paper to the back even they have not been soaked?
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Posted 09/05/2012   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, that's correct Rohumpy.
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