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Canada 53, Mnh XF/Superb. Who Grades/Certifies?

 
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Posted 08/14/2012   12:48 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Rileysan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I picked up this pair of Canada 53s this past weekend. The top stamp is easily a XF/Superb 95 and will probably grade at Superb 98 (possibly a Jumbo). I have never sent foreign stamps out for certification. Who certifies & grades Canada stamps?

Brian



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Posted 08/14/2012   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add irishjack to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here you go
https://goscf.com/t/25807 The greenefoundation check out the gear they use something from csi
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Posted 08/14/2012   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not exactly true. The Greene foundation does expertise Canadian stamps, but it does not grade them. I think stamp grading is primarily a US thing.
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Posted 08/14/2012   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add irishjack to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The do expertise Here is a quote from there home page
The Greene Foundation has provided the pre-eminent expertization service for British North America philatelic material since 1976. During this time it has issued over 18,800 certificates of genuineness and over 4,180 certificates identifying lack of genuineness. It is a member of the Association of International Philatelic Experts (A.I.E.P.), the international body of experts all over the world.

From talking with many serious collectors of Canada they all say to use the Greene foundation,
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Posted 08/14/2012   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 597596 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Philatelic Foundation will grade US & foreign stamps.
Check them out.
http://philatelicfoundation.org/exp.../grading.htm

They even have a few examples of yours in their cert search with grades applied.
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Posted 08/14/2012   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice stamps Rileysan

One of my favourite Canadian sets has to be the 1897 Jubilee issue.

Chimo

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Posted 08/14/2012   2:42 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I checked out the Green Foundation website, but I do not see any reference to grading. Without grading, I feel an expertisers certificate would be worthless (in this case). Perhaps they do it without mentioning it on the fee schedule? Does anyone have an example of one of their certificates?

Brian
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Posted 08/14/2012   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

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Posted 08/14/2012   2:58 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Please tell me you own that cover, Smauggie!?! I have volumes of stamps in my collection that, combined, are not worth as much as that cover!

Brian
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Posted 08/14/2012   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If only I could. I stole this pic from the interwebs.
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Posted 08/14/2012   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everybody

The Greene Foundation's mandate is only to expertize British North America stamps and related material. We do not express opinions with respect to grading or value. When a stamp is submitted for examination there can be only three outcomes: (1) Genuine in all Respects; (2) Not Genuine (for whatever reason), and (3) rarely the decision is made to offer "no opinion" in cases where we are unable to confirm and stand by a "good/bad" decision. Opinions referring to quality and price could lead to a conflict of interest and could potentially damage the Greene Foundation's reputation for integrity.

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Posted 08/14/2012   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add irishjack to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks gpotch, can't beat getting it from the horse's mouth
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Posted 08/14/2012   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Philatelic Foundation does not assign number grades, which is what I think Brian is looking for.
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Posted 08/14/2012   4:21 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PF actually does assign number grades. I wasn't aware that they certify and grade BNA until today. I think that's the route I'm going to take ...

Brian
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Posted 08/14/2012   7:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a note of caution: I remember buying a stamp from a reputable dealer with a philatelic foundation certificate, that referrred to the wrong Scott cal. number......I considered returning it, but in the end, I liked the stamp and deceided not to pursue further.....
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Posted 08/15/2012   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, mistakes are made, things are missed. PF does a decent job, but nobody is perfect. Caveat emptor.
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