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Belgium Revenue (?)

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Posted 09/05/2012   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dlambert1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Need help to identify Belgium stamp thought to be a revenue. Stamp is red/orange red with image of standing lion facing left with five-pointed star above with rays emanating down; imprinted at top "Belgique Taxes Fiscales belgie Fiscales Taxes"; overprinted "5Fr" and "40 -07/8056"; postmarked/cancelled "-2 A?? 193?" and Prosper GHYS8R5"; imprint "G?UNEUET".

Sorry, I have not yet figured out how to take and include a photo.

Donald
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Posted 09/05/2012   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What you have described does sound like a Belgian revenue. I have a few, but I don't think I have an example of what you are describing.

Barefoot publishes a Benelux revenue catalogue, but I don't have it.
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Posted 09/06/2012   01:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Donald,

Yes, this sounds very much as though it's the bottom half of the 5 franc Belgian (general) revenue from the 1931 issue. It's priced at 15 pence in Barefoot (with 45 pence for the whole stamp).
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Posted 09/06/2012   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlambert1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Nigel and CJD. I'm not familiar with Barefoot and will check Amazon and ebay. Regards,

Donald
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Posted 09/06/2012   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum dlambert

I was wondering if the stamp you are referring to is anything like of the the two I have scanned here??

Chimo

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Posted 09/06/2012   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just found another image. Could it be this type as well?

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Posted 09/06/2012   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Bujitsu, these are similar complete Belgian revenue stamps from other series.

The first one is from 1936, the next one is from 1929, and the last one is from 1923.
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Posted 09/06/2012   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting

Thanks ofr that Nigelc

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Posted 09/10/2012   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlambert1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bujutsu: None of your three scans resembles the stamp I have. The lions shown in your scans are all heraldic-style lion rampant and the one on my stamp is a drawing of a true African lion. The inscriptions confirm that my stamp is a revenue stamp. I should note that it is perforated on all four sides, so it may or may not be the lower half of a larger stamp, as Nigel suggested. I don't see perforations between the upper and lower halves or your stamps.

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Donald
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Posted 09/10/2012   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Write down ALL the words on your stamp, we'll figure it out.
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Posted 09/10/2012   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Write down ALL the words on your stamp, we'll figure it out.


While it is true that we (and by we, I mean the rest of you) are pretty good detectives, a picture is worth a thousand words. (And a nicescan is worth two thousand...)
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Posted 09/11/2012   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlambert1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found it, everyone. Examples are for sale and/or auction in www.delcampe.net with 1,2,3,4 and 5 Fr overprints. One example is Item 181730802, listed by seller Natdupetca as Belgie OCB FISC and is a 1Fr example. Bidding starts at 0.11 euro.

Nigel: You were spot on; that which I have is the bottom half only. Those for sale on Delcampe are complete stamps and some are on documents with 1933-34 dates.

Thank you, all.

Donald
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Posted 09/12/2012   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the image from Delcampe item 181730802:

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Posted 09/12/2012   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that nigelc.

I don't have any examples of that particular revenue in my Belgian collection.

Chimo

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Posted 09/12/2012   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlambert1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigel: Thanks; that's it. Please advise if you have the year of issue and/or the Barefoot catalog number.

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Donald
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Posted 09/13/2012   02:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Donald,

These are long sets with many values. This 1931 set is Barefoot 165-211 with values from 5c to 2500F. Your 5F stamp is Barefoot 181 and the 1F stamp above is Barefoot 176.
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