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Help On 1/2 Penny Jamaica Cut Out And Napolean Stamp

 
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Posted 09/30/2012   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add UFOAirMail to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey guys I was digging through the stamps again and found this 1/2 cent from Jamaica and it is NOT in my catalog anywhere..anyone ever seen one like this or know anything about?




Also found alot of old Italy and France (which I cant wait to post)
Heres the Italy I cannot find in my scott either..it has no amount on it...anyone know anything about this stamp perhaps? Is that Napoleon on it??



Thank you so much for your help
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Posted 09/30/2012   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The jamaca is probably a cutout from a newspaper wrapper. The purple Italian stamp has the denomination written out in Italian... Sadly I can't read Italian, so I can't really say which one it is, as I seem to have misplaced that book of my catalog.
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Posted 09/30/2012   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sessanta is 60, so that looks like Scott 32. I agree that the Jamaica is a cutout, so won't be found in Scott.
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Posted 09/30/2012   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tinus_NL to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's the 60 centesimi value of the 1863 series depicting Italian king Vitore Emmanuele II.

Don't have my catalogue nearby, so I can't give you a value, but from memory I believe this is either the highest or second highest denomination in the set.
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Posted 09/30/2012   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone..now please correct me here if you could because when I lookin my Scott catalog for the value of that King V stamp,would I look first column becuase of its age or 2nd value column or would this stamp fall somewhere in between the highest vlaue and lowest/used value? I think I was told on the cut outs to look at the first price due to age,,is this correct? So if the Jamaica is a cut out,its still a stamp isnt it and has a value,,its rare I would certainly think??
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Posted 09/30/2012   11:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First of all the cut out is Queen Victoria, George's grandmother. I guess it's the family resemblance.
Cut outs, or cut squares as they are also called don't necessarily have a lot of value (of course there are always exceptions) but are certainly collectible. It has more value if you can get the entire piece. It has been suggested it may be a newspaper wrapper. Depending on the thickness of the paper it could also be a postal card (if thicker) or prestamped envelope.
The left column in your Scott's catalogue is the price for an unused/mint example and the right number is for a used stamp. These values of course also depend on the condition of the stamp.
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Posted 09/30/2012   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Scott catalogue has a section at the front of every volume that explains how the catalogue listings work, and has some general collecting information.

It is well worth your time to flip through it. It will be harder for us to describe how the listings work than to let the catalogue show you itself.

What the Scott catalogue won't discuss are foreign cutouts. They just aren't listed in Scott.

There is no reason to assume the Jamaican cutout is rare. Might it be rare? I suppose it is possible, to a specialist who might recognize something special about the die...but I highly doubt it.

Someone who took the time to recognize special items of postal stationery would probably want the whole envelope, card or wrapper.

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Posted 09/30/2012   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
James its not thick at all like like that of a post cardand its thicker/tougher so to say than newpaper..I didnt know they didnt discuss foreign cut outs in Scotts,been going through thousands of stamps here in last month or so I havnt seen any other cut outs than the slew of Franklins & Washingtons I found,but just here in last few hrs I found 2 5's and a 10 from Mexico so guess they are out there from all countries like you say and are all not considered rare
Thank you all again for yet more learning info
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Posted 10/01/2012   03:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

You may wish to peruse 10 pages of world mutilated stationery here
has lots of nespaper wrappers
Yours is a lovely squared circle, very handsome.

https://goscf.com/t/19277
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Posted 10/01/2012   07:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As suggested by new12collector it's a cut-out from a stationery wrapper cancelled "Kingston Jamaica". The one below is worth very little... around £0.99 but a squared circle postmark might bump up that price to decent levels

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