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Help With Mint France Napoleon III & 4 Other France

 
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Posted 10/02/2012   07:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add UFOAirMail to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone please help me out here? I have been up all night and that's probally why I cant scott number any of these..except the big Napolean III stamp which I have identified as Scott 37 A6 5fr gray lil,lav ('69'..I am correct there aint I,or is it 37c bluish gray,lavender?
If anyone could tell me the other 4 stamps scott numbers and colors I would soo apprciate it big time..These are beautys and I just need to be 100% sure on what exactly they are..
Here's the line up~











Thank you so very much,
Dave
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Posted 10/02/2012   07:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a strange feeling about these.... in best case these are replicas... second and third: UNLISTED errors (and I mean that these are not listed in Yvert&Tellier= major french catalogue. 25 c on left, right is 30/ respectively dark brown with 80 respectively 30 c) First seems a late usage for me, although I`m not 100 % sure)
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Posted 10/02/2012   07:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wadmalatz are you sure these are not real??? I just bought them and thaught I made a great deal on them..if you know for sure I can try to cancell this asap
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Posted 10/02/2012   07:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you need a quick answer and paid much for them, I`d say cancel the deal....I really hope they were offered as replicas. Perforation seems also odd... first should have a 14:13.5 perf... These stamps (I mean originals) have hiiiigh CV (the first around 1000 Eur, according Mi)
IMPORTANT: I`m not an expert in France!! ASK OTHERS... I`m sure here you`ll find experienced collectors. If you still lead to take my advice: shortly- In my opinion these are forgeries.
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Edited by Wadmalatz - 10/02/2012 08:02 am
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Posted 10/02/2012   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 5f Napoleon looks very dodgy. This is an expensive item so ripe for faking.

This is a rather tatty legitimate one.



The 80c is the wrong colour, only a 20c was issued in black and the pink one has two different values.
All the perfs look wrong too and the cancels are all too perfect and show incorrect date usage for the issues.

Sorry.

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Edited by AnthonyUK - 10/02/2012 08:15 am
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Posted 10/02/2012   08:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UFOAirMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep now I found that in book and yes these dont match up according to book,,I contacted seller and told them they are fake or reproductions..dont think they knew this as they dont sell stamps to begin with and I didnt pay much anyways so should get funds back today,,will keep ypou posted on this and hey guys,without you I would have been in a bind here ,,but you were fast and helped me out tremendously! THANK YOU BOTH SO VERYYYYYYYY MUCH!
I thaught I struck her big ..see too good to be true strikes again ahahah,was tired too and all that so I fell for it no problem
CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH GUYS! The best are here everyone!
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Posted 10/02/2012   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thank you too AnthonyUK (I was looking for some CERES stamps to show - don`t have a Napoleon:( )...
....and I always feel a bit uncomfortable giving opinion on stamps I don`t collect... in this case I guess I was better not to shut my mouth :)
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Posted 10/02/2012   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

SCF is a collectors forum for help and opinion.
Members should be reponsible for their own ultimate decisions,
we can only call it as we see it.

I thought all the postmarks look dodgy
and I really don't collect France as well
They stuck out like a sore thumb to me,
I would have been hesitant to call it.
You did well Daniel.
Albeit I think Paypal give 60 days for complaints.
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Posted 10/02/2012   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm late on the bandwagon, but at the very first look 2 minutes ago, I thought - impossible cancel on the 5F...

===========later

Duh! I keep looking at these - I just noticed that some of the 5 stamps have identical cancels, in fact I "think" 4 of the 5 are the same, plus one with dots under "Paris." A very bad sign.

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Edited by doug2222 - 10/02/2012 10:17 am
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Posted 10/02/2012   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hutin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These top 5 stamps are forgeries; I collected France and these stamps are bad forgeries. Trust me
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Posted 10/02/2012   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And just one small detail: even if they were legit, none of these is considered mint. I think you're using that term to mean "nice condition", but, with stamps, it really implies that (1) the stamp is not cancelled, and (2) that has gum on the back.

There's usually additional info provided to convey the condition of the gum -- whether it's all there and totally undisturbed (MNH "mint never hinged" in the US), is all there except the stamp has been hinged (MH "mint hinged"), or if the gum has been removed (MNG "mint no gum"), and one variation on that, if the stamp was not issued with gum -- sometimes it happens! -- (NGAI, "no gum as issued").

Do invest the time to look at the introductory pages in the beginning of any volume of the Scott catalog. This will pay off in dividends.

But mint is not really the appropriate term to use here.

-- Dave
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Posted 10/02/2012   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A college education in early French stamps, and you have graduated with honors.
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Posted 10/02/2012   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AnthonyUK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a thread with some images of classic French stamps

https://goscf.com/t/19850
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