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Bogus And Counterfeit Stamps From Various Countries.

 
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Posted 10/02/2012   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Art Strohmeier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This post continues the listing of Bogus stamps from my library; previous listing were from Ukraine;
The first scan is from Ethiopia and Azerbajan.
Data is from Scott's 2008 catalog.


Ethiopia cat no's 268-270.

Azerbajan entries are not in the catalog.

Next, from Tannu Tuva:
and another page fromTannuTuva






Entries/cat no's are
First page - 75, 78,79,80a and 81;
second page, top : 82a, 83,84a,85a and 86a; third page; 89, 90, 91,92, 87 and 88.

From indonesia;




See cat No's 64,65,68 and 69

From Latvia:




Scott's says the following:
Eight typographed stamps of this design were prepared in 1919, but were never placed in use. They exist in perf and imperf. Value set: Imperf $1; perf $2.

From South Molucca (Maluku and Selatan:




From Lundy; (Not in Scott's)




and, puportedly counterfeit (possibly), from North Ingermanland.




Any questions, let me know. Sorry about the white background, but they are in a (mini) album and would require removing and replacing, etc., etc.

Art
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Posted 10/02/2012   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
From South Molucca (Maluku and Selatan:


This seems to suggest that Maluku and Selatan are separate places. Selatan is simply the Korean for South.
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Posted 10/02/2012   6:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think Lundy is a local postal service for the island, not a bogus issue.
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Nice collection of WW mostly classical issues that are "suspect".

Scott often, but not always will not list or de-list a set that was never placed in use by a "legitimate" government. Sometimes that is the case because of a regime change, and the "losers" stamps get unlisted.

I sometimes like to keep them ("losers") as an example of how the winners write the history- and get to issue the stamps.
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Posted 10/02/2012   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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This seems to suggest that Maluku and Selatan are separate places. Selatan is simply the Korean for South.


Well, Bahasa Indonesia, anyway

I recall once staying in a small town in North Sulawesi, where the only other resident foreigners were some South Korean engineers. Our only common language was Indonesian.
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Posted 10/02/2012   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Art Strohmeier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for comments to date:
Bamra1:
Yes, I see that now.
New12collector
Re Lundy; OK, what Island? Where would Scott list the series? It's not even in the index.
Jkjblue:
Interesting, since all were grouped together in a 'bogus' file.
Tonymacq:
Had no idea it was part of Indonesia; Maybe I need o read the geo. more.
Any indication of any that are NOT bogus? (probably need to submit a higher resolutiuon image.)
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Selatan is the Indonesian word for south and can be found in topography.
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Posted 10/02/2012   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A previous thread:

https://goscf.com/t/11084
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Posted 10/02/2012   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More information from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lundy
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Posted 10/02/2012   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The term bogus is overly used by much of the philatelic community. Case in point the stamps of Ethiopia you have shown were ordered and prepared for the government of that nation. However by the time they were delivered the Italian invasion had taken the capital Addis Ababa. They were intended as a semi-postal charity issue with proceeds going to the Red Cross. You show 3 of the 5 printed. Some stamps were overprinted with a Red Cross and was issued in Gore where the government had moved to after the fall of Addis Ababa. No stamps without overprint were issued. An additional release in the province of Gojjam was issue without the Red Cross overprint but an overprint with the initials in Amharic for a local rebel leader, Dedjazmatch Mesfin Bezabih who was one of several leaders that never surrendered to the the Italians remaining autonomous during the occupation, on 3 of the 5 denominations.
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Posted 10/02/2012   10:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Remainders were overprint with a V in 1945, Scott #268-72, for general use, then again for the Red Cross B11-5 in 1950, then again in 1960 for the Red Cross Silver Jubilee, B36-40.
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Posted 10/03/2012   02:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The North Ingermanland stamps are probably forgeries but genuine stamps in these designs do exist.

The originals were more finely printed and in less vivid colours than the forgeries.
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