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British Honduras One Penny Queen Victoria Forgery

 
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Posted 11/10/2012   12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cjd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any idea of what this mark is? I don't see a catalogue note about remainders, though that is what it reminds me of.



I've exhausted my searching attempts trying to scare one up.
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Posted 11/10/2012   01:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To be honest, the stamp itself looks a bit "suspect" to me. I'm not in any way a collector of that area, so I'll defer to those who are. One of the things that strikes me funny, which I see often on Spanish forgeries, is that faint guide line in the upper margin. That non-descript cancel just kind of screams Spiro to me.
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Posted 11/10/2012   02:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It reminds me of the St. Helena remainders that you showed here Cjd:

https://goscf.com/t/18210#18210
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Posted 11/10/2012   06:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a real stamp ,yours is a forgery

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Posted 11/10/2012   06:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two real red stamps and the brown one is fake ,like yours.

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Posted 11/10/2012   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Question, were the fakes created for use as postage or aftermarket for stamp collectors?
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Posted 11/10/2012   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was so focused on the cancel that I didn't pay any attention to the stamp, itself. I agree it is a forgery.

Album Weeds has a number of spotting features, including: litho instead of engraved (this example is definitely not engraved); 'pence' or 'penny' touches the outer line of the garter border; the front and top of the crown, and the back of the hair, just touch the edge of the oval border; straight, pointed nose. The higher values have differences in the ornaments and garter buckle, too.

The good Reverend also says that he thinks they came from Hamburg, but agrees that they have the look of Spiro's handiwork.

I assume these were made as typical filler material, and not intended to fool the authorities.

[edit: I'm also assuming that my forgery matches the forgery discussed in Album Weeds, as the spotting features appear to match. There could, of course, be others.]
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