Russia & Area - Help To ID Please!

Over Christmas I found time to go through my Russia & Area stamps. There were quite a few I couldn't identify, however. Does anyone know what these are?









Thanks for looking!

For starters, two Tannu Tuva earlies, and an unofficial Latvia back of the book (see occupation stamps). The "70" looks like a cutout from Russian postal stationery. Can't read the last item.

The stamp in the 3rd row is South Russia.

Thanks for the responses.

Doug, you wrote: The "70" looks like a cutout from Russian postal stationery.

I don't think so - I have a whole set of these with different colours and denominations. They are all imperf and heavily toned, but on regular paper.

khj, I've never head of South Russia. Is it listed in Scott?

Yes, it is the Denikin issue.

In Scott:

South Russia #65(1919)

I should note Scott has a funny ABC order. South Russia appears after Southern Rhodesia in the Classic catalog; after South Moluccas in the the Vol 6 WW catalog.

Apparently Scott ignores spaces when alphabetizing.

The stamp in the 4th row is at the back of the Russia listings. I believe it is --

Offices in the Turkish Empire #344(1921).

South Russia
In 2006 Scotts, Vol 6 P 77
In 2008 Scotts, Vol 6 P 80

Thanks for the help, everyone!

@khj: actually it is quite logical: South Moluccas (and South Georgia and South Kasai for that matter) are not considered classic so they are not in the Classic catalogue. That makes Southern Rhodesia is immediately followed by South Russia, which is how the alphabet wants it.

What I find strange though, is why South Russia has a separate listing and is not bundled with Russia. German states are all under Germany, as the old Italian states are with Italy and Australian states are with Australia. Transvaal, Oranje Vrijstaat, Cape of Good Hope and Natal however are in different volumes (vol.6,vol.4,vol.2 and vol.4 respectively), which is strange given the strategy for Germany, Italy and Australia. The same would apply in my opinion for these Russian issues. I cannot imagine someone collecting South Russia without doing Russia as well, so it makes sense putting these together...

South Russia was not a country but a philatelic convenience, by grouping several regional government issues in one catalog location. Since these issues were in within modern Ukraine as well as Russia it would be harder to list as a Russian state.

You are correct that it is logical according to the scheme Scott utilizes. Actually, I listed both catalog because I wasn't sure which catalog Jimjamtwo might be using, not that the two catalogs are not consistent. They are consistent according to Scott's alphabetization scheme.

What I meant was that I would have expected all the "South XXXXX" to be listed together, followed by the "Southern XXXXX". In other words, I would have expected South Russia to appear before Southern Rhodesia instead of after, regardless of which catalog.

I don't know how its done elsewhere, but its unusual around my circles to ignore the space when alphabetizing. Most operating systems that I use also do not ignore the space when alphabetizing filenames.

So when I first starting using the Scott catalog, it took some adjustment to get used to finding certain countries/areas that had spaces in their names.

There you have a valid point which I did not notice earlier. South(space) should be before Southern in my opinion as well.